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I wonder what it does to people? Never leaving a building, not seeing sun for some people I speculate for days or weeks One of the important things everyone sh

by qnsi 5y ago

I wonder what it does to people? Never leaving a building, not seeing sun for some people I speculate for days or weeks One of the important things everyone should do is see natural light (not through windows) in first hour after waking up.

nickysielicki 5y ago
That’s not possible during large stretches of winter in Alaska regardless of what kind of building you live in.
vidarh 5y ago
Growing up in Southern Norway, during winter it'd usually be pitch black when I got up, and I'd not only not see much natural light in the first hour after waking up, but it'd still be twilight until the first school lesson was underway. It might be nice, but it's not that important.
SeanAnderson 5y ago
Why does observation through a window change anything?
- redweer 5y ago
  they heard it on a podcast
- solarmist 5y ago
  I don't think it applies at apartment windows, but I believe many sky scrapes would have UV treatments on their windows.
- mariebks 5y ago
  Sunlight through a window is much less bright according to lumen meters than when you’re outside. We have neurons that wake you up more and directly respond to bright light early in the morning. (paraphrased, source from Huberman Lab podcast).
- wizzwizz4 5y ago
  Whether it's in your peripheral vision.
chrisseaton 5y ago
> One of the important things everyone should do is see natural light (not through windows) in first hour after waking up. Is there some science behind this or is it a spirituality thing?
- thoughtstheseus 5y ago
  It improves your sleep / wake cycles.
  - chrisseaton 5y ago
    What does the glass block that improves your sleep and wake cycle?
    - mikestew 5y ago
      UV light? Not a proponent of the idea (I live in Seattle, corncob LEDs FTW), but it is the only thing I can think of.
      - chrisseaton 5y ago
        Glass blocks UVB. It doesn't block UVA, which is the light that is positively correlated with sleeping patterns. https://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q12082.html https://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q12082.html https://bmcdermatol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-5945-2-6 https://bmcdermatol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-...
- t8e56vd4ih 5y ago
  common sense?
- wincy 5y ago
  I’m pretty sure $300 worth of LED bulbs will work just fine. Getting to 50,000 lux or so in a room (which is some equation with lumens and the volume of the room, a small apartment should be easy to make bright as day vs a warehouse). It’ll only cost as much as running a few hundred watt bulbs incandescent bulbs did back in the day. The sun isn’t magic or anything.
adventured 5y ago
> I wonder what it does to people? Entirely depends on your personality. I'm able to be alone for months at a time without it bothering me much. Other people go crazy after a few days of that. Some of that is determined by whether you merely enjoy the company of other people or if you require other people. I enjoy the company of other people, however it extracts energy from me, and I preferably want to be alone afterward to recharge (social gatherings every night would deplete me, I'd require a break). Other people are more the social butterfly type, and they get recharged by being around other people, socializing, and they get increasingly depressed when that is missing. I could spend months reading/working/thinking alone on an island (so to speak), and not have a care in the world about the passing of time. I'd enjoy having hundreds of years just to spend that way, there are so many things to learn and think about.
- jader201 5y ago
  I'd argue it's not so much about whether you're introverted or extroverted. In a place like this, it seems like you have plenty of opportunity to be around others, or be alone (though, the article makes it sound like sometimes even alone time can be interrupted by intruding neighbors). This is more about handling mostly indoor life vs. outdoor life, which impacts other aspects of wellbeing vs. socialization/introversion/extroversion.
- jhbadger 5y ago
  The atmosphere (people dropping by for a visit at any hour in their pjs) reminds me of a university dorm. I'm not a particularly extroverted person, but I remember enjoying my time living in a dorm. I'm not sure I'd like it so much now though.

by qnsi 5y ago

nickysielicki 5y ago

That’s not possible during large stretches of winter in Alaska regardless of what kind of building you live in.

vidarh 5y ago

Growing up in Southern Norway, during winter it'd usually be pitch black when I got up, and I'd not only not see much natural light in the first hour after waking up, but it'd still be twilight until the first school lesson was underway. It might be nice, but it's not that important.

SeanAnderson 5y ago

Why does observation through a window change anything?

redweer 5y ago
they heard it on a podcast
solarmist 5y ago
I don't think it applies at apartment windows, but I believe many sky scrapes would have UV treatments on their windows.
mariebks 5y ago
Sunlight through a window is much less bright according to lumen meters than when you’re outside. We have neurons that wake you up more and directly respond to bright light early in the morning. (paraphrased, source from Huberman Lab podcast).
wizzwizz4 5y ago
Whether it's in your peripheral vision.

chrisseaton 5y ago

> One of the important things everyone should do is see natural light (not through windows) in first hour after waking up. Is there some science behind this or is it a spirituality thing?

thoughtstheseus 5y ago
It improves your sleep / wake cycles.
- chrisseaton 5y ago
  What does the glass block that improves your sleep and wake cycle?
  - mikestew 5y ago
    UV light? Not a proponent of the idea (I live in Seattle, corncob LEDs FTW), but it is the only thing I can think of.
    - chrisseaton 5y ago
      Glass blocks UVB. It doesn't block UVA, which is the light that is positively correlated with sleeping patterns. https://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q12082.html https://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q12082.html https://bmcdermatol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-5945-2-6 https://bmcdermatol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-...
t8e56vd4ih 5y ago
common sense?
wincy 5y ago
I’m pretty sure $300 worth of LED bulbs will work just fine. Getting to 50,000 lux or so in a room (which is some equation with lumens and the volume of the room, a small apartment should be easy to make bright as day vs a warehouse). It’ll only cost as much as running a few hundred watt bulbs incandescent bulbs did back in the day. The sun isn’t magic or anything.

adventured 5y ago

> I wonder what it does to people? Entirely depends on your personality. I'm able to be alone for months at a time without it bothering me much. Other people go crazy after a few days of that. Some of that is determined by whether you merely enjoy the company of other people or if you require other people. I enjoy the company of other people, however it extracts energy from me, and I preferably want to be alone afterward to recharge (social gatherings every night would deplete me, I'd require a break). Other people are more the social butterfly type, and they get recharged by being around other people, socializing, and they get increasingly depressed when that is missing. I could spend months reading/working/thinking alone on an island (so to speak), and not have a care in the world about the passing of time. I'd enjoy having hundreds of years just to spend that way, there are so many things to learn and think about.

jader201 5y ago
I'd argue it's not so much about whether you're introverted or extroverted. In a place like this, it seems like you have plenty of opportunity to be around others, or be alone (though, the article makes it sound like sometimes even alone time can be interrupted by intruding neighbors). This is more about handling mostly indoor life vs. outdoor life, which impacts other aspects of wellbeing vs. socialization/introversion/extroversion.
jhbadger 5y ago
The atmosphere (people dropping by for a visit at any hour in their pjs) reminds me of a university dorm. I'm not a particularly extroverted person, but I remember enjoying my time living in a dorm. I'm not sure I'd like it so much now though.