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> Plenty of people watch Joe Rogan that aren't conservatives How do you know that? I'm legitimately interested what kind of audience he has now and how it chan

by iaml 5y ago

> Plenty of people watch Joe Rogan that aren't conservatives How do you know that? I'm legitimately interested what kind of audience he has now and how it changed after he signed w/ spotify, but I don't think this info is available publicly, at least I can't find it.

YEwSdObPQT 5y ago
Because he has a sizeable inter-nation audience. If anyone has a sizeable inter-nation audience they will have all sorts of people listening to them. There is something in the region of 100s of millions of downloads. Joe mentioned it and talked about it briefly on one of his shows. I've personally spoken to people about Joe Rogan about interviews he has done to people in Belgium, UAE, the US, the UK, Germany. My boss listens to Joe Rogan and he is a Muslim that lives in Sheffield (UK) and I am pretty sure he probably votes Labour or Liberal Democrat. Some people really need to talk to people outside of their bubble. Joe Rogan has mass appeal because he has long format conversations with interesting/noteworthy or notorious people. It the same reason Loius Theroux was popular back in the 90s and 00s.
- iaml 5y ago
  You can't make any conclusions on a 100 million podcast based off your personal experience talking to people in your bubble, unless your definition of 'plenty of people' is 0.00001% of audience (I'm estimating the number of people you surveyed at 1000, but do correct me if I'm wrong).
  - YEwSdObPQT 5y ago
    I was expecting such a reply. It is really frustrating talking to people with an attitude such as yours. He has a large inter-national audience and the number of people that have watched his podcast is in the 10s if not 100s of millions. That is more people than a lot of countries in Europe. Yet you find it hard to believe that the audience can have diverse (in the truest sense of the word)? That is quite frankly moronic. As for the people I've talked to about it. These are people in aren't in my "bubble". I simply had a passing conversation with them in a break-room or on a Slack call (I work remote now) while waiting for people to filter in or some random people I've spoken to on Discord. These are not close friends, or people I even regularly speak to.
    - iaml 5y ago
      > Yet you find it hard to believe that the audience can have diverse (in the truest sense of the word)? I find it hard to believe because up to this point you've made zero effort to offer any proof of that apart from 'trust me bro'. I'm skeptical that Joe has a diverse audience because to have that you need to make an effort, and from what podcasts I've listened of his he became noticeably less accepting of other viewpoints over time, on some topics like covid especially. This could easily lead towards radicalization of his audience, but you just dismiss this possibility. He should really follow his old advice and go to woods and do some ayahuasca, his third eye is fully closed at this point.
      - Sargos 5y ago
        It's obvious that Rogan has a diverse audience from looking at the facts. It's up to you to provide evidence to the contrary or you will have proven yourself to be arguing in bad faith which wastes people's time and harms discourse.
        iaml 5y ago
        From what I could gather, this whole 'cancel jre' movement is fueled by his covid stance, which many consider contrary to current medical recommendations. Judging from the fact that democrats are more vaccinated [0] I'm making the assumption that they would be more likely to have a problem with his views, meaning his audience is less likely to be mostly bipartisan, reducing the diversity and increasing polarization. What can we call a diverse audience and does Joe have it? Only Joe and spotify know, but my point is it's trending downwards. [0] https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-february-2021/ https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/kff-co...
        YEwSdObPQT 5y ago
        The cancel JRE movement has been going on for a long time. He has been attacked for years by the same people. He is competition (and an effective competition) to traditional news and media. They don't like that because he is a self made man and not beholden to them they have nothing to control him with. His questioning of the official wisdom is just the latest thing they have attacked him on.
  - misiti3780 5y ago
    You just did above. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30219325#30221054 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30219325#30221054
    - iaml 5y ago
      Did you link the correct comment? To be clear, I have no idea what objective audience he has, but I would like to know.
- graderjs 5y ago
  > If anyone has a sizeable inter-nation audience they will have all sorts of people listening to them. Exactly good point. Just like HN. It's an international community. It's funny (but I used to do it) to say that "HN is so conservative", "HN is so anti-free speech" or, "HN is so West coast liberal" when none of those things are true in reality.

by iaml 5y ago

YEwSdObPQT 5y ago

Because he has a sizeable inter-nation audience. If anyone has a sizeable inter-nation audience they will have all sorts of people listening to them. There is something in the region of 100s of millions of downloads. Joe mentioned it and talked about it briefly on one of his shows. I've personally spoken to people about Joe Rogan about interviews he has done to people in Belgium, UAE, the US, the UK, Germany. My boss listens to Joe Rogan and he is a Muslim that lives in Sheffield (UK) and I am pretty sure he probably votes Labour or Liberal Democrat. Some people really need to talk to people outside of their bubble. Joe Rogan has mass appeal because he has long format conversations with interesting/noteworthy or notorious people. It the same reason Loius Theroux was popular back in the 90s and 00s.

iaml 5y ago
You can't make any conclusions on a 100 million podcast based off your personal experience talking to people in your bubble, unless your definition of 'plenty of people' is 0.00001% of audience (I'm estimating the number of people you surveyed at 1000, but do correct me if I'm wrong).
- YEwSdObPQT 5y ago
  I was expecting such a reply. It is really frustrating talking to people with an attitude such as yours. He has a large inter-national audience and the number of people that have watched his podcast is in the 10s if not 100s of millions. That is more people than a lot of countries in Europe. Yet you find it hard to believe that the audience can have diverse (in the truest sense of the word)? That is quite frankly moronic. As for the people I've talked to about it. These are people in aren't in my "bubble". I simply had a passing conversation with them in a break-room or on a Slack call (I work remote now) while waiting for people to filter in or some random people I've spoken to on Discord. These are not close friends, or people I even regularly speak to.
  - iaml 5y ago
    > Yet you find it hard to believe that the audience can have diverse (in the truest sense of the word)? I find it hard to believe because up to this point you've made zero effort to offer any proof of that apart from 'trust me bro'. I'm skeptical that Joe has a diverse audience because to have that you need to make an effort, and from what podcasts I've listened of his he became noticeably less accepting of other viewpoints over time, on some topics like covid especially. This could easily lead towards radicalization of his audience, but you just dismiss this possibility. He should really follow his old advice and go to woods and do some ayahuasca, his third eye is fully closed at this point.
    - Sargos 5y ago
      It's obvious that Rogan has a diverse audience from looking at the facts. It's up to you to provide evidence to the contrary or you will have proven yourself to be arguing in bad faith which wastes people's time and harms discourse.
      - iaml 5y ago
        From what I could gather, this whole 'cancel jre' movement is fueled by his covid stance, which many consider contrary to current medical recommendations. Judging from the fact that democrats are more vaccinated [0] I'm making the assumption that they would be more likely to have a problem with his views, meaning his audience is less likely to be mostly bipartisan, reducing the diversity and increasing polarization. What can we call a diverse audience and does Joe have it? Only Joe and spotify know, but my point is it's trending downwards. [0] https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-february-2021/ https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/kff-co...
        YEwSdObPQT 5y ago
        The cancel JRE movement has been going on for a long time. He has been attacked for years by the same people. He is competition (and an effective competition) to traditional news and media. They don't like that because he is a self made man and not beholden to them they have nothing to control him with. His questioning of the official wisdom is just the latest thing they have attacked him on.
- misiti3780 5y ago
  You just did above. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30219325#30221054 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30219325#30221054
  - iaml 5y ago
    Did you link the correct comment? To be clear, I have no idea what objective audience he has, but I would like to know.
graderjs 5y ago
> If anyone has a sizeable inter-nation audience they will have all sorts of people listening to them. Exactly good point. Just like HN. It's an international community. It's funny (but I used to do it) to say that "HN is so conservative", "HN is so anti-free speech" or, "HN is so West coast liberal" when none of those things are true in reality.