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It's possible (although maybe not likely) that this guy really _did_ deserve to be put on PIP, and the team transfer request is completely incidental. Unless w

by hhmc 5y ago

It's possible (although maybe not likely) that this guy really _did_ deserve to be put on PIP, and the team transfer request is completely incidental. Unless we can know for sure, or at least from a less biased source, we probably shouldn't doxx the manager?

deltaonefour 5y ago
Yeah that's true. We really need some service like blind where people can anonymously review and score managers. We need votes to prove that a manager is an ass hole. One anecdotal story isn't enough. Maybe the service leaves the manager anonymous until the review amount crosses a certain threshold... 3 to 4 guys calling him out? Submit this to ycombinator!
- deelly 5y ago
  Honest question: how to prevent abusing this system?
  - KnobbleMcKnees 5y ago
    Hey we've come full circle to PIP again. But seriously: there isn't a way. This is why sites like Glassdoor are garbage and teacher rating sites have ruined careers over minor issues.
  - deltaonefour 5y ago
    So one email per company is allowed one vote. Similar to how blind allows one account per email. That prevents abuse. You don't like the guy, you can vote once because you have an email address at the company. If 3 or 4 people don't like the guy then the system assumes there is genuinely a problem with him and it reveals itself. That means one person can't run a smear campaign. At least 2 or 3 other people have to agree with you, and if they do then it's legit. The system masks the persons negative reviews until that manager has accumulated greater than 3 or 4. Three or four negative reviews from people in the company is NOT a minor issue.
- whywhywhywhy 5y ago
  > We really need some service like blind where people can anonymously review and score managers Wouldn’t managers just make a service where they review and score engineers too?
  - deltaonefour 5y ago
    Every employee can be reviewed! It's fair. Here's the thing though, I said you need 3 to 4 negative reviews before the entire review profile becomes public. Each engineer has one manager, thus they have one review. The profile doesn't open up until after the engineer worked for several managers and 3 or 4 of them leave bad reviews. It's fair. But managers are more at risk. Still this process keeps everyone in line. Don't be a jackass is the key metric here.

by hhmc 5y ago

deltaonefour 5y ago

Yeah that's true. We really need some service like blind where people can anonymously review and score managers. We need votes to prove that a manager is an ass hole. One anecdotal story isn't enough. Maybe the service leaves the manager anonymous until the review amount crosses a certain threshold... 3 to 4 guys calling him out? Submit this to ycombinator!

deelly 5y ago
Honest question: how to prevent abusing this system?
- KnobbleMcKnees 5y ago
  Hey we've come full circle to PIP again. But seriously: there isn't a way. This is why sites like Glassdoor are garbage and teacher rating sites have ruined careers over minor issues.
- deltaonefour 5y ago
  So one email per company is allowed one vote. Similar to how blind allows one account per email. That prevents abuse. You don't like the guy, you can vote once because you have an email address at the company. If 3 or 4 people don't like the guy then the system assumes there is genuinely a problem with him and it reveals itself. That means one person can't run a smear campaign. At least 2 or 3 other people have to agree with you, and if they do then it's legit. The system masks the persons negative reviews until that manager has accumulated greater than 3 or 4. Three or four negative reviews from people in the company is NOT a minor issue.
whywhywhywhy 5y ago
> We really need some service like blind where people can anonymously review and score managers Wouldn’t managers just make a service where they review and score engineers too?
- deltaonefour 5y ago
  Every employee can be reviewed! It's fair. Here's the thing though, I said you need 3 to 4 negative reviews before the entire review profile becomes public. Each engineer has one manager, thus they have one review. The profile doesn't open up until after the engineer worked for several managers and 3 or 4 of them leave bad reviews. It's fair. But managers are more at risk. Still this process keeps everyone in line. Don't be a jackass is the key metric here.