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As much as I feel sorry for this person and their experience, it seems to me this wasn't the best way to handle this situation. It would have been more pragmat

As much as I feel sorry for this person and their experience, it seems to me this wasn't the best way to handle this situation. It would have been more pragmatic to fire up leetcode, take a few interviews, and leave the job professionally. This probably would have come with a small pay bump, even with this persons limited professional experience. Maybe I'm just lucky and I've never had a bad experience like this, but I couldn't see myself posting something like this professionally.

Areading314 5y ago
100% agree. Everyone knows Amazon is toxic but I sure as hell wouldn't hire someone who posted this
- matsemann 5y ago
  100% disagree. I mean, working for some of the FAANGs is already a red flag of moral character, speaking up at least redeems them somewhat. But seriously, I'd rather have a coworker that speaks up when they feel things are wrong. Nothing unprofessional about that.
- deltaonefour 5y ago
  I get where you're coming from. But I have to tell you, even though both you and I would never hire (I'm not a technically a "never hire", but definitely less likely) this guy has balls of steel and speaks his mind and the truth. I "won't hire" him for selfish reasons, but this guy is a patriot and speaks out against bully's. I hate to admit it, but people like us perpetuate the behavior.
- Dylan16807 5y ago
  Then you're contributing.
oblio 5y ago
You're lucky. The rest of us are just (well paid) cowards.
t-writescode 5y ago
What are your thoughts about when the wives of the EA developers came together and sued EA? “Perhaps they should just be quiet”? When are the abused allowed to speak? Edit: nevermind. Comment history suggests I’ll never get a response.
- adomanico 5y ago
  I wasn't suggesting anyone should "just be quiet", in fact, I'm happy this person was able to express themselves and their situation openly on LinkedIn. My point was simply this wasn't a very pragmatic approach to handling the situation. Some employers may not like to see this type of content on their professional profile and it may hurt their career.
  - slt2021 5y ago
    Goven the shortage of devs I hope there will be smart employers who hire this guy, he has a spine and core principles. David vs Goliath story
  - 0x002A 5y ago
    That's what majority of the people think and do, those who find themselves in the similar situations and that's how companies like Amazon can continue doing this shady practices.
deltaonefour 5y ago
Guys, what do you think of a ratemyprofessors.com for bosses at companies? Optional anonymous reviews and to be fair and balanced the boss can respond to each review. That way people can do what jiawei did but without the risk of professional self harm.
- spupe 5y ago
  Glassdoor is kind of like that, and in my experience it is decently accurate too.
  - deltaonefour 5y ago
    Nah but the resolution there is company wide. I'm talking about a service that reviews individuals. Plenty of bad people in otherwise great companies. The point of the review in my idea is not just to inform potential candidates, but to push individual managers to become better. When your actions have real consequences towards your reputation then you will be mindful of your actions.
  - pm90 5y ago
    Glassdoor is filled with Spam from fake accounts and smurfs though. I knew for a fact that a company I worked for had people monitoring their Glassdoor page, with the recruiting team being given the task of Smurfing some good reviews. Blind is pretty great but probably overly cynical. It’s not been “discovered” just yet.
Nextgrid 5y ago
The reason this kind of bullshit continues to happen is because nobody calls it out. Calling it out and shaming it publicly is the only way to eventually resolve this problem. Someone in a position of relative power (being able to quit and publicly call out their employer) calling it out also makes the situation better for those that may not be able to afford that risk.
- ergocoder 5y ago
  They should call it out. But bringing up the fact that he wrote 51k lines of code in one month is such a huge red flag ..

Areading314 5y ago

100% agree. Everyone knows Amazon is toxic but I sure as hell wouldn't hire someone who posted this

matsemann 5y ago
100% disagree. I mean, working for some of the FAANGs is already a red flag of moral character, speaking up at least redeems them somewhat. But seriously, I'd rather have a coworker that speaks up when they feel things are wrong. Nothing unprofessional about that.
deltaonefour 5y ago
I get where you're coming from. But I have to tell you, even though both you and I would never hire (I'm not a technically a "never hire", but definitely less likely) this guy has balls of steel and speaks his mind and the truth. I "won't hire" him for selfish reasons, but this guy is a patriot and speaks out against bully's. I hate to admit it, but people like us perpetuate the behavior.
Dylan16807 5y ago
Then you're contributing.

oblio 5y ago

You're lucky. The rest of us are just (well paid) cowards.

t-writescode 5y ago

What are your thoughts about when the wives of the EA developers came together and sued EA? “Perhaps they should just be quiet”? When are the abused allowed to speak? Edit: nevermind. Comment history suggests I’ll never get a response.

adomanico 5y ago
I wasn't suggesting anyone should "just be quiet", in fact, I'm happy this person was able to express themselves and their situation openly on LinkedIn. My point was simply this wasn't a very pragmatic approach to handling the situation. Some employers may not like to see this type of content on their professional profile and it may hurt their career.
- slt2021 5y ago
  Goven the shortage of devs I hope there will be smart employers who hire this guy, he has a spine and core principles. David vs Goliath story
- 0x002A 5y ago
  That's what majority of the people think and do, those who find themselves in the similar situations and that's how companies like Amazon can continue doing this shady practices.

deltaonefour 5y ago

Guys, what do you think of a ratemyprofessors.com for bosses at companies? Optional anonymous reviews and to be fair and balanced the boss can respond to each review. That way people can do what jiawei did but without the risk of professional self harm.

spupe 5y ago
Glassdoor is kind of like that, and in my experience it is decently accurate too.
- deltaonefour 5y ago
  Nah but the resolution there is company wide. I'm talking about a service that reviews individuals. Plenty of bad people in otherwise great companies. The point of the review in my idea is not just to inform potential candidates, but to push individual managers to become better. When your actions have real consequences towards your reputation then you will be mindful of your actions.
- pm90 5y ago
  Glassdoor is filled with Spam from fake accounts and smurfs though. I knew for a fact that a company I worked for had people monitoring their Glassdoor page, with the recruiting team being given the task of Smurfing some good reviews. Blind is pretty great but probably overly cynical. It’s not been “discovered” just yet.

Nextgrid 5y ago

The reason this kind of bullshit continues to happen is because nobody calls it out. Calling it out and shaming it publicly is the only way to eventually resolve this problem. Someone in a position of relative power (being able to quit and publicly call out their employer) calling it out also makes the situation better for those that may not be able to afford that risk.

ergocoder 5y ago
They should call it out. But bringing up the fact that he wrote 51k lines of code in one month is such a huge red flag ..