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> Somehow there's this idea that the Sars-CoV-2 vaccines need to prevent infection or symptomatic disease but that is an incredibly high bar that no respiratory
by tomp 5y ago
> Somehow there's this idea that the Sars-CoV-2 vaccines need to prevent infection or symptomatic disease but that is an incredibly high bar that no respiratory viral vaccine has ever met.
So what you're saying that Fauci, Pfizer etc. weren't just wrong about the vaccine ("if you get it you won't get sick" a.k.a. "science has changed as we've learned more facts") but actively lied about it (after all, they of all people should know that no other vaccine succeeded in that for respiratory viruses).
- kodah 5y agoI don't think we can use terms like "lie" with respect to the pandemic yet, because full post-facto analysis is not done yet. That analysis isn't just on people's words, it's on their relationships to other people, entities, etc... You also have to determine what they "know" during a given time. I'm fully supportive of holding government officials accountable, especially if they've enacted their own agenda, but there's a time and place for such things as well as a path to proving them.
- nradov 5y agoIf you look back at the actual press releases and research studies that Pfizer and BioNTech published about their Comirnaty vaccine, they never specifically claimed that it would reliably prevent infection. It was the politicians like Fauci who made false claims not backed by reliable science. (And to be clear, I still recommend that everyone eligible get vaccinated as it's fairly effective at preventing severe symptoms.)