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One of the worst things about Donald Trump was that if he or anyone adjacent to him actually said anything good, it immediately became toxic. That wasn't the w

One of the worst things about Donald Trump was that if he or anyone adjacent to him actually said anything good, it immediately became toxic. That wasn't the worst thing about trump.... it's the worst thing about the media coverage of him. You're blaming him for how media covered him.

kingsloi 5y ago
What about things said by them directly, their Twitter, etc?
hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago
Why not both? Trump behaved in a provocative way for a reason - it's not like he was a poor misunderstood thing and the media picked up on him for no reason.
- themaninthedark 5y ago
  Preface by saying the I don't agree with Trump on a lot of things. Lets look at this from a parenting perspective. If i have a child who misbehaves often, is it appropriate for me to punish them when they do something good? Holding the media to the same accountability, if Trump is saying stupid/outrageous/provocative things, then lambast him when he says those things. But if the media lambasts him when he is saying something reasonable, then that is on the media. I think most of the annoyance I see in the thread is because there was blame being assigned to Trump or even someone on the same stage as him because they were on that stage with him. >One of the worst things about Donald Trump was that if he or anyone adjacent to him actually said anything good, it immediately became toxic. So rather than examining an idea based on the merits, ideas were discarded due to the messenger or the who the messenger associated with.
  - hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago
    Yes, I fully agree: criticizing Trump when when he was saying/doing something that makes sense just because it's Trump was very stupid.
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Supermancho 5y ago
Modified for context, the german adage holds. If you have Trump and 3 people talking at a table, you have 4 Trumpers talking at a table.

kingsloi 5y ago

What about things said by them directly, their Twitter, etc?

hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago

Why not both? Trump behaved in a provocative way for a reason - it's not like he was a poor misunderstood thing and the media picked up on him for no reason.

themaninthedark 5y ago
Preface by saying the I don't agree with Trump on a lot of things. Lets look at this from a parenting perspective. If i have a child who misbehaves often, is it appropriate for me to punish them when they do something good? Holding the media to the same accountability, if Trump is saying stupid/outrageous/provocative things, then lambast him when he says those things. But if the media lambasts him when he is saying something reasonable, then that is on the media. I think most of the annoyance I see in the thread is because there was blame being assigned to Trump or even someone on the same stage as him because they were on that stage with him. >One of the worst things about Donald Trump was that if he or anyone adjacent to him actually said anything good, it immediately became toxic. So rather than examining an idea based on the merits, ideas were discarded due to the messenger or the who the messenger associated with.
- hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago
  Yes, I fully agree: criticizing Trump when when he was saying/doing something that makes sense just because it's Trump was very stupid.

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Supermancho 5y ago

Modified for context, the german adage holds. If you have Trump and 3 people talking at a table, you have 4 Trumpers talking at a table.