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A Fifth of Telecommuters Work Less Than An Hour Per Day
- mansr 15y agoI'm quite sure a large number of people working in an office are truly productive only an hour per day as well. The only difference is what gets in the way of real work.
- chadgeidel 15y agoAbsolutely. While "Office Space" and "Dilbert" are parodies, they are based on a lot of real-life scenarios. Some days I end up spending the day answering the phone/email/IM or attending meetings that interrupt my programming work.
- hopeless 15y agoI'd say 1-2hours of productive work a day is quite common (it fits with my current experience). The difference is when you're working at home you don't have to pretend to be working. So when you've got no work to do you don't have to pretend to read a document. You can go for walk, do the dishes, play with your kids, work on side-project/ learn a new language. Same productivity, happier worker.
- chc 15y agoThis article seems to conflate "works less than eight hours a day" with "doesn't get the job done." I would expect somebody who doesn't have the distractions of an office or the pressure to appear busy for eight hours regardless of actual workload might get things done faster. Also, a lot of telecommuters are either intermittent workers (e.g. freelancers) or part-timers, so it's unsurprising that a significant number don't average many hours a day.
- nimbix 15y agoFrom my experience, a day of working from home is about as productive as working a week at the office.
- div 15y agoIt's not as black and white as that for me, but that definitely does happen. I find working from home 2 out of 5 days to be great for my productivity, while still being very available to colleagues.
- sudont 15y agoWeekend hours without anyone else in the office is generally 2-3x (as measured in a BPM database) as productive for me.
- DannoHung 15y agoAs long as you don't have to respond to email, chats, calls or other questions and don't have to talk to anyone at the office.
- mchusma 15y agoInteresting, I would say depends highly on what you are doing, and how self motivated you are. With certain tasks, I feel a day in the office is as productive as a week from home. I also found it weird that everyone jumped on the efficiency bandwagon. I actually know people who work from home, and there are definitely a sufficient number of them who do very little productive work in a given day (not that it is necessarily different in an office).
- lolabloladd32 15y agoAnd somehow we manage to outperform our office counterparts. PG talks about how some people can produce 10-100x more than others and that those who produce 100x should start their own companies. The idea is that you will be rewarded for your huge productivity with huge rewards. The flip side of this is that you could work a normal job from home and work 1-20% of normal job hours and make a decent wage with tons of free time.
- sneak 15y agoOr, if you're willing to omit a lot of personal details to your employer, one could also work 2 or 3 jobs in parallel this way.
- mannicken 15y agoI really think they should define 'work'. Creative work is much different than, say, assembly of radios. A lot happens when you're away from the computer.
- wisty 15y agoNote - this isn't "20% of full-time telecommuters are skiving off". Some might be, others might telecommute 1 day a week and use that to do their chores (which might be sanctioned by their manager). Some are freelancers who are effectively unemployed. Others are self-employed, and procrastinating. Some might be students, who have a part-time job they do from home. Some might be full-time mothers, who do the odd job on Mechanical Turk.
- chops 15y ago"I'd say in a given week, I probably only do about 15 minutes of real, actual work."
- Goladus 15y agoAnd that movie was pre-facebook, he was not wasting time on the internet.
- shabble 15y agoOffice Space released: 1999. Size of the Internet[1] in 1999: "Estimates the publicly indexable Web at 800 million pages, 6 terabytes of text data on 2.8 million servers as of February 1999."[2] Snowclone of a credit-card advertising campaign: Worthless. [1] back when it was still a proper noun. [2] Steve Lawrence and C. Lee Giles. "Accessibility and Distribution of Information on the Web," Nature 400(6740): 107-109, July 8, 1999
- wavephorm 15y agoYeah, the internet sure sucked before Facebook came along and added... nothing.
- sneak 15y agoI posit that you're doing it wrong. Friend some 18-24 year old girls.
- Goladus 15y agoI've been using the internet at work since 1997. But it was not nearly as ubiquitous as it is now. "Surfing the web" was generally something people did at home, on a 56k modem. A software engineer fixing the Y2K bug in bank software probably didn't have much access, and probably didn't care a whole lot anyway. Certainly, the movie made no mention of the internet. And obviously facebook was merely an example. 1999 was pre-reddit, pre-wikipedia, pre-digg, pre-hacker news, and pre-twitter. Yahoo had just bought viaweb. Most of the people using the web today weren't using it in 1999, and most of the pages, services, and content that exist today did not exist in 1999. The point is that no matter how distracting the internet might be, procrastination has always been an issue for developers.
- umjames 15y agoShouldn't productivity be measured in number of things done where each "thing" is multiplied by a number that represents the difficulty of the task divided by the time taken to do it? If hours are the chief measurement, then you can stretch things out to make it take more time. I'm sure this is happening in businesses the world over anyway.
- kadabra9 15y agoMentally, at least for me, it's too easy to fall into the trap of classifying "work" as something that directly produces results....writing code, changing a design etc. When looked at it from that perspective, it's easy to feel that you/someone are not doing a lot of "work", but often a lot of my time is spent on "work about work".... answering emails, managing clients, or even just brainstorming on a whiteboard / notebook. All of these are just as important to the end result of a project but are easy to overlook in a day/week/month that is ruled by deadlines, expectations, metrics, etc. If I've got a telecommuter on my staff that gets shit done, but only works an hour a day, more power to him.
- timjahn 15y agoWith telecommuting, amount of time worked != amount of work completed. Chances are, that hour they're actually working at home is getting the equivalent of 8 hours of traditional work-in-an-office work done.
- ssharp 15y agoWhile I wouldn't diminish the distractions found in an office, I'm not sure if I ever ran into a case where 7 hours of my day was wasted on nonsense that wouldn't have occurred had I been at my house. I've been telecommuting two days a week for the past 2.5 years and have found that certain things get done significantly faster at home and other things get done significantly faster at the office. I have a job where I'm coding maybe 5-10% of the time, and most of the coding is done at home where I can assure that there will be few distractions outside of my control. The same goes for any activity, done solo, and requiring prolonged concentration.
- jbail 15y agoAre there really work environments so distracting that 8 hours in the office equals 1 hour at home? That seems crazy. If so, there's is something seriously messed up at that office. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for telecommuting and did a 100% telecommuting gig for 3 years straight, but there's no way to get a days work done in 1 hour.
- silverbax88 15y agoI'd say it's unfortunately accurate.
- stricken 15y agoYes, I work in an open plan office so because they can see me they think it's OK to interrupt me whenever they feel like it. I'm in a room with the support guys and testers so all their phone calls I get to hear. Especially distracting if they're talking to a user about something I've worked on. Sometimes I manage to space out and not hear it but then you look up and people are staring at you "what do you think Bob?" Headphones only go so far.
- corin_ 15y ago"Stay-at-home workers also said getting dressed for the day was far too strenuous" As someone who has spent a few years working from home (but doesn't now), that's a horrible assumption. Sure, there were days when I'd be working in my boxers, but there were also days when I would be wearing trousers and a shirt ready to go out for a meeting. And when I wasn't properly dressed, it wasn't that it was "strenuous", or even that I was lazy, it was a case of not needing to. If I wasn't going to see anyone for a few hours after waking up, and I didn't happen to feel like wearing much, why would I bother? Other times I did feel like it and I was fully dressed even if I wasn't going to see anyone. That has no relation to what work I did.
- m0nastic 15y agoI definitely think it's a matter of someone's personal ritual. I've been working from home for the past four years, and I have definitely slipped into a habit of being lazy with my clothes/appearance. I sit around the apartment in a pair of track pants 90% of the time (which makes me look like either a washed-up, out of shape footballer, or possibly a mobster), only putting on real clothes if I have to do something later that night (and even then I don't get dressed like a real grownup until just before I have to leave). I also haven't gotten a haircut in about 8 months. I don't particularly like long hair, I just haven't gotten around to it (in spite of the fact that the ridiculous mane I have grown makes me look like one of the Thundercats). In fact an observer might look as the way I live and conclude that I've been in a horrible bout of depression for the past four years (doesn't put on clothes, doesn't shave or deal with their hair, is a shut-in), but I can attest that I'm quite pleased by this situation.
- mbesto 15y agoCouldn't there be some bias from the people that were polled? For example, I love working from home, right? So of course I'm going to tell someone polling me that I do a lot work from home. Not saying that this is anecdotal...just sayin'.
- famousactress 15y agoThis isn't journalism, it's useless garbage. The article assumes a clear bias in the way it interprets the data and doesn't bother to ask any obvious questions in hopes of explaining the numbers.
- nfm 15y agoAs a comparison, I'd like to know the breakdown of hours of actual work for those who go in to the office every day.
- kreek 15y ago...but at least they're not stuck in a car/bus/train for two hours like those who work less than and hour per day in the office.
- 0x12 15y agoAs long as you get paid by the hour you should work those hours, be it at the office or at home. If you don't want to get paid by the hour, become a contractor and do fixed price jobs.
- shabble 15y agoOr be paid a salary whilst working in an overtime-exempt position.
- georgieporgie 15y agoI bet that if you measured actual, focused work time spent, this would be roughly accurate of the average office-bound employee. Edit: BTW, flagged for having basically no objective content at all.
- nzonbi 15y agoHow much telecommuters work, depends on each case. In my case, I have been working from home for the last 7 years. I am highly motivated because I want to maximize achievements in the rest of my life. Mostly, I work in small teams with other remote friends, on fixed price contracts and on my own projects. Fixed price contracts means that the faster I can finish work, the more profitable it is, and the more time I get for my own projects. For my that is a brutal incentive to get things done. This is my current pattern. works for me, but may not work for others: - I don't watch TV, except occasionally while lunch. In general I don't like TV. - 4 years since my last vacation. I hardly can forget about work. - I don't follow any daily routines. Typically work around 5 - 12 daily hours, usually until late in the night. I find this way the more productive for me. Overall, that translates to around 40 hours of fair intensity work per week. I wish I could do more, but I have found that to be the sustainable amount. Surpassing that, leads to burnout, and less productivity overall. - I take a few short breaks during work. A walk in the garden, cook something simple, browse hacker news, etc. I have found that necessary to stay productive. That seems to take over the occasional talks in a on-site work. For example, I once did a project in odesk, with their invasive surveillance system, and without taking breaks. Got a five star rating in the end. But the experience was so dismal, that I almost decided to retire from programming. I was often dreading every minute of work. - I maximize use of time. When I can't stand more work, I do 1-2 hours of intense jogging. Or get out, take a walk at a pleasant place, take lunch at some place, etc. In this way, I am always highly motivated in what I am doing. - I have found that I am very self sufficient. I used to need some hangout-with-friends time, but I don't need that anymore. Now I mostly feel that as a waste of time. - I work on weekends, and usually take the Mondays off. When I visit places, I prefer to avoid the usual tumult of the weekends.
- Vivtek 15y agoBack when I worked contract at Eli Lilly, I knew a guy who looked busy all day long, but was doing nothing at all, as far as anybody else in the project could tell. If he'd been telecommuting and working less than an hour a day, nobody would have noticed.
- devy_t 15y agoGood workers don't need to be managed but are self-directed by their own desire to do a job well done and commitment they share with the vision of the company. There is tremendous value in coming in to the office to see your colleagues face to face but sometimes not all work requires it. Perhaps these workers finished their work early as I have often heard that telecommuters are far more productive. If they didn't loop back with their managers then I would question that relationship or the worker. I wouldn't attribute telecommuting as a killer to productivity though.
- nerd_in_rage 15y agoI thought about getting 2 jobs telecommuting: twice the pay for half the work.
- espressodude 15y agoWorking at home require twice the discipline needed when you work at the office. There are lots of distractions.
- gamble 15y agoI'm inclined to call this survey bullshit. There's no information available about it, except a blurb at the very bottom of the infographic claiming that it's from their survey of hiring manager. At best, it only tells you how lazy hiring managers who use careerbuilder.com are when they work from home.
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- jff 15y agoWow, a lot of you guys are getting really defensive here. I can get some good work done at home, but only if I've remembered to bring home all materials I need. And if I don't need to face-to-face with somebody. And if there are no meetings scheduled for that day.
- gaoshan 15y agoI bill less than 8 hours a day (normally) but I work that much. I just don't feel like I should bill for what I call "stupid time" or getting stuck on something that, were I faster and more knowledgable, would only take 1/3 the time.
- nasmorn 15y agoIn this case I hope you also charge the fast and knowledgeable rate. Otherwise you sell yourself short.
- yason 15y agoI wouldn't care if my employees did five minutes of work at home per day as long as they get things done in similar amounts compared to their peers.
- joss82 15y agoIn the office, I'd be lucky to have a net work day of +1 hour. Sometimes, friction and bad decisions can make you work -8 hours a day. Or worse. Also, for some people, definition of "work" in a big company is "presence". So, that's obviously not fitting for a telecomuter.
- devy_t 15y agoHere is an interesting article that sees telecommuting as an increasing phenomena: http://mashable.com/2011/09/17/work-from-home-infographi/ http://mashable.com/2011/09/17/work-from-home-infographi/ Telecommuting reduces overhead cost (rent, utility, etc) and gas usages but it's still important to maintain rapport with your team. Yay video teleconferencing!