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Who in their right mind would buy a device from Facebook, it would be surrendering your own, and the right to privacy of anyone around you. I'd almost say any

Who in their right mind would buy a device from Facebook, it would be surrendering your own, and the right to privacy of anyone around you. I'd almost say any device by Facebook should be made illegal unless you notify people close to you that you're "monitoring".

jamil7 5y ago
> Who in their right mind would buy a device from Facebook Probably a lot of people if it was cheap enough and marketed right.
fattegourmet 5y ago
>Who in their right mind would buy a device from Facebook I completely agree with you on this, yet a lot of people are buying Oculus sets
- lostmsu 5y ago
  You can't really do a lot of tracking with Oculus.
christophilus 5y ago
I’m curious how many portals and oculus devices have sold. Especially portals: having one of those in my house seems unimaginable to me.
amelius 5y ago
Perhaps under a different name. Lots of people bought Oculus.
theshrike79 5y ago
They just need to make it cheap and good enough. And of course have an ironclad EULA about the tracking and spying stuff that people agree on. And make it hard enough to root so that people just don't get a cheap phone and install vanilla Android on it.
- cute_boi 5y ago
  Rooting phone is already been futile, since many banking app etc. doesn't work anymore. We lost it badly :(
  - theshrike79 5y ago
    Allowing banking on a rooted phone is an impossible operation as far as the bank is concerned. How can they be sure the user with the rooted phone is Very Good At Security and rooted their phone on purpose instead of someone who got their phone hacked and has spyware listening to their banking logins? The safe bet for banks is to deny all banking on rooted phones, that way they don't need to argue about lost money, they can just go "phone rooted, not our problem, we did our best to prevent it".
    - cute_boi 5y ago
      How can banks be sure that computer, the browser, the os people use is very good at security? It should scream the people that phone is rooted. But, denying services is inimical. Its not just banking app I have started to see a lot of app behaving differently when phone is rooted. Rooting generally means people can mitm app, which app developer obviously doesn't like. Its more about control than security in my opinion.
cute_boi 5y ago
You might be surprised people are so naive. If you just do following thing I would say it would be so easy for facebook to capture market. Release a phone with: - 0 Bloatware, - High Ram/ CPU/ functions - 100% privacy and no ads (initial days to allure consumers) - Cheap price People will purchase them and after 3-4 year add tracking slowly in name of feedback etc. There will be some loss but for long term I think facebook should do it, or it will be wiped off from market. If people buys oculus it shouldn't be that hard.
npteljes 5y ago
All they need is a good price and the people will come.
tomjen3 5y ago
Make it so that it would always have the latest Facebook features and sell it at/below cost. Market it heavily and you would see a lot of people buy it because it is the cheapest available phone.

jamil7 5y ago

> Who in their right mind would buy a device from Facebook Probably a lot of people if it was cheap enough and marketed right.

fattegourmet 5y ago

>Who in their right mind would buy a device from Facebook I completely agree with you on this, yet a lot of people are buying Oculus sets

lostmsu 5y ago
You can't really do a lot of tracking with Oculus.

christophilus 5y ago

I’m curious how many portals and oculus devices have sold. Especially portals: having one of those in my house seems unimaginable to me.

amelius 5y ago

Perhaps under a different name. Lots of people bought Oculus.

theshrike79 5y ago

They just need to make it cheap and good enough. And of course have an ironclad EULA about the tracking and spying stuff that people agree on. And make it hard enough to root so that people just don't get a cheap phone and install vanilla Android on it.

cute_boi 5y ago
Rooting phone is already been futile, since many banking app etc. doesn't work anymore. We lost it badly :(
- theshrike79 5y ago
  Allowing banking on a rooted phone is an impossible operation as far as the bank is concerned. How can they be sure the user with the rooted phone is Very Good At Security and rooted their phone on purpose instead of someone who got their phone hacked and has spyware listening to their banking logins? The safe bet for banks is to deny all banking on rooted phones, that way they don't need to argue about lost money, they can just go "phone rooted, not our problem, we did our best to prevent it".
  - cute_boi 5y ago
    How can banks be sure that computer, the browser, the os people use is very good at security? It should scream the people that phone is rooted. But, denying services is inimical. Its not just banking app I have started to see a lot of app behaving differently when phone is rooted. Rooting generally means people can mitm app, which app developer obviously doesn't like. Its more about control than security in my opinion.

cute_boi 5y ago

You might be surprised people are so naive. If you just do following thing I would say it would be so easy for facebook to capture market. Release a phone with: - 0 Bloatware, - High Ram/ CPU/ functions - 100% privacy and no ads (initial days to allure consumers) - Cheap price People will purchase them and after 3-4 year add tracking slowly in name of feedback etc. There will be some loss but for long term I think facebook should do it, or it will be wiped off from market. If people buys oculus it shouldn't be that hard.

npteljes 5y ago

All they need is a good price and the people will come.

tomjen3 5y ago

Make it so that it would always have the latest Facebook features and sell it at/below cost. Market it heavily and you would see a lot of people buy it because it is the cheapest available phone.