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I hope they ship soon. I preordered Starlink and put down the deposit in Feb 2021. Still nothing.

by _wldu 5y ago

plazmatic 5y ago
KennyBlanken 5y ago
I've heard a lot of people say they're still waiting. Musk seems to have figured out that he can collect deposits for way more people than he could possibly deliver to, leveraging it as free operating cash. The cybertruck is a great example - millions of people gave him money for something that hasn't left prototype stage and will never be produced because it couldn't possibly meet federal vehicle standards in the US or Europe.
- numpad0 5y ago
  I’m just thinking the bonnet is going to be plastic and that’ll clear about half or so of the concern, isn’t that the case?
- FireBeyond 5y ago
  Same with SolarCity, too.
- smoldesu 5y ago
  I dunno. I've got it, it works fine. I really doubt the constraining factors are with network load or regulation, though; if you can source the components for a couple hundred thousand routers and radar dishes, I'm sure the rest of the industry is dying to hear where you're looking.
- baldfat 5y ago
  Cyber Truck is a style I don't think that will be an issue with meeting Federal Standards and EU Standards
- oxplot 5y ago
  Deposits are refundable at any time. If people are ok with leaving their money in Tesla's hand for years, then they are clearly indicating that they believe Tesla will deliver. If any evidence comes to light that shows otherwise, they can take their money back in a blink.
- Dylan16807 5y ago
  The wait list is maybe a million people? Enough deposits to pay for 1% of the satellite constellation is worth something but I doubt it's a notable factor in how they operate.
paul7986 5y ago
Musk is likable but im personally in no hurry to buy anything any of his especiialy his hyped up robot cars .. here's one almost killing a pedestrian (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnp0VChf1_k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnp0VChf1_k) ... execute one algorithm to avoid car yet oops we forgot to program it executing additional ones in this situation .. let's ship out an update. Progress is going to be a killer! Starlink seems to be more hype too like his HyperLoop.
- the_pwner224 5y ago
  If anything Starlink is (along with SpaceX) the least hypey Musk project, it has some minor rough edges but seems to actually be doing a good job of fulfilling its goal. Comparing it to Hyperloop doesn't seem reasonable to me.
  - shaklee3 5y ago
    starlink is possibly the most hyped on the financial side. there are virtually no scenarios where they can make money and still maintain the plans they have now. I know people will disagree, but we'll have to see in a few years.
  - _ph_ 5y ago
    And it has to be remarked that Hyperloop was solely a concept Musk published to share it, as he personally had no plans of implementing it himself. The only other involvement of his with it is sponsoring a yearly event where universities can compete on a one-mile test track on the SpaceX site in Hawthorne.
- mlindner 5y ago
  That's got nothing to do with "robot cars". That's just a bad driver. Why are you trying to spread FUD? Even the video description is incorrect. > Note the driver blows the horn as he enters the intersection. He obviously cannot stop the car. Probable FSD or Autopilot crash. FSD/Autopilot does not stay on or prevent human interaction. Slamming on the brake turns it off, even assuming was on. This is a "unintended press of the accelerator pedal" type crash. Human error, and actually a good argument for why removing the human from the loop would be a good idea. > Starlink seems to be more hype too like his HyperLoop. Starlink is serving over 100,000 customers with good service all paying $100/month. Hardly hype.
acrooks 5y ago
Weird. I put my deposit down in April 2021 and got my offer in December 2021, but I ended up declining it - no way to use it right now. Maybe it’s related to your location. I’m in Vancouver.
walrus01 5y ago
Availability is presently limited by density of CPEs in a given geographical area. They don't want to ridiculously oversubscribe it and give people bad ping, packet loss and traffic speeds, because that's exactly what geostationary consumer priced vsat services as known for. If you can't get it shipped to you and are still in the pre-order queue, your area is out of capacity until more satellites are launched or the satellite+terminal firmwares are better improved. There's a number of places that are not out of capacity and if you put in the "right" street address it'll take you to the immediate full price payment order page.
- yellow_lead 5y ago
  But Starlink doesn't support changing your location yet - or does it?
  - mlindner 5y ago
    It always has, or has for a very long time. It's not guaranteed that when you change your location that there will be service available at that location however.
  - walrus01 5y ago
    It does, but you have to apply and ask if there's capacity in the area you want to move it to in advance.
- shaklee3 5y ago
  they are going to oversubscribe it. they're only slow to add users because they can't make terminals, not because they're trying to maintain an unrealistic QoS.
  - simondotau 5y ago
    Is that an assumption on your part, or is there associated evidence? If there is, that’s something I’d really appreciate knowing.

I hope they ship soon. I preordered Starlink and put down the deposit in Feb 2021. Still nothing.

by _wldu 5y ago

I hope they ship soon. I preordered Starlink and put down the deposit in Feb 2021. Still nothing.

plazmatic 5y ago

KennyBlanken 5y ago

I've heard a lot of people say they're still waiting. Musk seems to have figured out that he can collect deposits for way more people than he could possibly deliver to, leveraging it as free operating cash. The cybertruck is a great example - millions of people gave him money for something that hasn't left prototype stage and will never be produced because it couldn't possibly meet federal vehicle standards in the US or Europe.

numpad0 5y ago
I’m just thinking the bonnet is going to be plastic and that’ll clear about half or so of the concern, isn’t that the case?
FireBeyond 5y ago
Same with SolarCity, too.
smoldesu 5y ago
I dunno. I've got it, it works fine. I really doubt the constraining factors are with network load or regulation, though; if you can source the components for a couple hundred thousand routers and radar dishes, I'm sure the rest of the industry is dying to hear where you're looking.
baldfat 5y ago
Cyber Truck is a style I don't think that will be an issue with meeting Federal Standards and EU Standards
oxplot 5y ago
Deposits are refundable at any time. If people are ok with leaving their money in Tesla's hand for years, then they are clearly indicating that they believe Tesla will deliver. If any evidence comes to light that shows otherwise, they can take their money back in a blink.
Dylan16807 5y ago
The wait list is maybe a million people? Enough deposits to pay for 1% of the satellite constellation is worth something but I doubt it's a notable factor in how they operate.

paul7986 5y ago

Musk is likable but im personally in no hurry to buy anything any of his especiialy his hyped up robot cars .. here's one almost killing a pedestrian (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnp0VChf1_k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnp0VChf1_k) ... execute one algorithm to avoid car yet oops we forgot to program it executing additional ones in this situation .. let's ship out an update. Progress is going to be a killer! Starlink seems to be more hype too like his HyperLoop.

the_pwner224 5y ago
If anything Starlink is (along with SpaceX) the least hypey Musk project, it has some minor rough edges but seems to actually be doing a good job of fulfilling its goal. Comparing it to Hyperloop doesn't seem reasonable to me.
- shaklee3 5y ago
  starlink is possibly the most hyped on the financial side. there are virtually no scenarios where they can make money and still maintain the plans they have now. I know people will disagree, but we'll have to see in a few years.
- _ph_ 5y ago
  And it has to be remarked that Hyperloop was solely a concept Musk published to share it, as he personally had no plans of implementing it himself. The only other involvement of his with it is sponsoring a yearly event where universities can compete on a one-mile test track on the SpaceX site in Hawthorne.
mlindner 5y ago
That's got nothing to do with "robot cars". That's just a bad driver. Why are you trying to spread FUD? Even the video description is incorrect. > Note the driver blows the horn as he enters the intersection. He obviously cannot stop the car. Probable FSD or Autopilot crash. FSD/Autopilot does not stay on or prevent human interaction. Slamming on the brake turns it off, even assuming was on. This is a "unintended press of the accelerator pedal" type crash. Human error, and actually a good argument for why removing the human from the loop would be a good idea. > Starlink seems to be more hype too like his HyperLoop. Starlink is serving over 100,000 customers with good service all paying $100/month. Hardly hype.

acrooks 5y ago

Weird. I put my deposit down in April 2021 and got my offer in December 2021, but I ended up declining it - no way to use it right now. Maybe it’s related to your location. I’m in Vancouver.

walrus01 5y ago

Availability is presently limited by density of CPEs in a given geographical area. They don't want to ridiculously oversubscribe it and give people bad ping, packet loss and traffic speeds, because that's exactly what geostationary consumer priced vsat services as known for. If you can't get it shipped to you and are still in the pre-order queue, your area is out of capacity until more satellites are launched or the satellite+terminal firmwares are better improved. There's a number of places that are not out of capacity and if you put in the "right" street address it'll take you to the immediate full price payment order page.

yellow_lead 5y ago
But Starlink doesn't support changing your location yet - or does it?
- mlindner 5y ago
  It always has, or has for a very long time. It's not guaranteed that when you change your location that there will be service available at that location however.
- walrus01 5y ago
  It does, but you have to apply and ask if there's capacity in the area you want to move it to in advance.
shaklee3 5y ago
they are going to oversubscribe it. they're only slow to add users because they can't make terminals, not because they're trying to maintain an unrealistic QoS.
- simondotau 5y ago
  Is that an assumption on your part, or is there associated evidence? If there is, that’s something I’d really appreciate knowing.