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None of this stuff speaks to me, just looking at your website. Yeah its cute and it's on-par with trends but just give it to me straight in the first sentence-

by 0des 5y ago

None of this stuff speaks to me, just looking at your website. Yeah its cute and it's on-par with trends but just give it to me straight in the first sentence- im busy, and already in my workplace so lets start there. If it's chat with a bupbupbup attached, then tell me its a chat with a bupbupbup attached, if you're trying to do 'its a discord, but for programmers and startuppy types' then say that directly. Shoot me straight next time, today you lost me.

MarcelOlsz 5y ago
>but just give it to me straight Like pear cider that's made from 100% pears?
dsaffy 5y ago
There are parallels to Discord; the HN audience knows Discord well and so if we were only trying to appeal to this audience we would probably market it that way. A large chunk (possibly the majority) of our existing users don't know about Discord though and it doesn't make sense to purely market it in relation to that. There are also some noticeable differences, particularly: - integrations are focused on work products, eg calendar, rather than what games you are playing etc - rooms (similar to Discord voice channel) can be shared on a calendar for guests - we prioritize different things in screenshare (quality over FPS, since it's for work not gaming)
- 0des 5y ago
  I'm sensing that I'm speaking to the person that wrote the overly verbose copy I lamented above. Please hear my cries, just get to the point ok? I'm not trying to be mean or angry or anything like that, but I'm a person with money who buys things, often just to support them. Your website actively thwarted my attempts to support it by the laborious interface. Had this been 3 or 4 years ago, sure I'd be captivated by the design long enough to stick around and try and suss out what the marketing speak and round edges are telling me, but right now in 2022 it looks like everything else out there. If you don't be different, then at least get to the point about why being different doesn't matter.
  - drcongo 5y ago
    I had to come to the HN comments to find out what this actually is, I was completely baffled by the website.
  - dsaffy 5y ago
    I am the author. FWIW I totally understand where you are coming from; I'm not happy with our explanation of "What is Pesto?". We will take our own pass on refining this, and I'd also appreciate if you tried it and gave me your thoughts on it. Right now "digital workplace" is the best we have.
- e12e 5y ago
  So it's Teams, but without office 365?
ghostly_s 5y ago
What the heck is a "bupbupbup?"
- 0des 5y ago
  lmao this guy doesn't know a bupbupbup
- terminatornet 5y ago
  i think that's the mcdonald's theme, ya know "bupbupbup i'm lovin it"
- justusthane 5y ago
  Parent just means "chat plus X", I think. Chat plus video. Chat plus rooms. Chat plus bupbupbup.
  - 0des 5y ago
    This is the meaning that was intended, thanks.
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by 0des 5y ago

MarcelOlsz 5y ago

>but just give it to me straight Like pear cider that's made from 100% pears?

dsaffy 5y ago

There are parallels to Discord; the HN audience knows Discord well and so if we were only trying to appeal to this audience we would probably market it that way. A large chunk (possibly the majority) of our existing users don't know about Discord though and it doesn't make sense to purely market it in relation to that. There are also some noticeable differences, particularly: - integrations are focused on work products, eg calendar, rather than what games you are playing etc - rooms (similar to Discord voice channel) can be shared on a calendar for guests - we prioritize different things in screenshare (quality over FPS, since it's for work not gaming)

0des 5y ago
I'm sensing that I'm speaking to the person that wrote the overly verbose copy I lamented above. Please hear my cries, just get to the point ok? I'm not trying to be mean or angry or anything like that, but I'm a person with money who buys things, often just to support them. Your website actively thwarted my attempts to support it by the laborious interface. Had this been 3 or 4 years ago, sure I'd be captivated by the design long enough to stick around and try and suss out what the marketing speak and round edges are telling me, but right now in 2022 it looks like everything else out there. If you don't be different, then at least get to the point about why being different doesn't matter.
- drcongo 5y ago
  I had to come to the HN comments to find out what this actually is, I was completely baffled by the website.
- dsaffy 5y ago
  I am the author. FWIW I totally understand where you are coming from; I'm not happy with our explanation of "What is Pesto?". We will take our own pass on refining this, and I'd also appreciate if you tried it and gave me your thoughts on it. Right now "digital workplace" is the best we have.
e12e 5y ago
So it's Teams, but without office 365?

ghostly_s 5y ago

What the heck is a "bupbupbup?"

0des 5y ago
lmao this guy doesn't know a bupbupbup
terminatornet 5y ago
i think that's the mcdonald's theme, ya know "bupbupbup i'm lovin it"
justusthane 5y ago
Parent just means "chat plus X", I think. Chat plus video. Chat plus rooms. Chat plus bupbupbup.
- 0des 5y ago
  This is the meaning that was intended, thanks.

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