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Recruiting farms like Cyber Recruiters (yuck) will do everything in their power to waste your time Or share your data. I made a throwaway, but not obnoxious e
by dvtrn 5y ago
Recruiting farms like Cyber Recruiters (yuck) will do everything in their power to waste your time
Or share your data.
I made a throwaway, but not obnoxious email on my domain just for recruiters a few years ago, so I could try tracking who I was talking to.
Via three consecutive third-party recruiters I started getting cold calls and e-mails from recruiters I’d never contacted, never met, or never before engaged with from agencies that weren’t the ones I spoke to or sent a CV to. Soon I started getting other completely irrelevant email. Then the robocalls came. I later found that email address among five different data leak sources.
Just so happened to be a different popular recruiting company that has “Cyber” in the name.
- Tade0 5y agoI always ask where do they have this number from. One time the guy told me that the person who referred me "preferred to remain anonymous". I asked him if he realised that this is a violation of GDPR and that a typical candidate would recognize it as such? No coherent answer.
- Cd00d 5y agoI've more than once asked a cold-call recruiter how they got my number where the answer has been a rather candid, "there are markets for such information". Kinda makes me regret the few years my LinkedIn profile had my phone number public, but I do wonder how successful these questionable personal data marketplaces are. I certainly haven't had a conversation get beyond "this is spam".
- dvtrn 5y agoCheck out http://intelx.io http://intelx.io, depending on your risk tolerances, putting your email and phone number in yet another search bar may not be in the cards. If you can swallow it though, depending if (1) anything you care about has been leaked at all and (2) anything you care about being leaked has been indexed by this site...the results may be illuminating. Or nothing at all. Interesting resource nonetheless that supplements my day-to-day line of Devsecops. This site and a few other OSINT tools was how I discovered who 'sold out' my CV to some of the questionable 'recruiting agencies'.
- idontwantthis 5y agoHow do you put a phone number in? It rejects mine.
- car 5y agoUsing E.164 international phone number formatting works. E.g. +14155551212.
- lelandfe 5y agoI highly recommend using a Google Voice number for recruiters for just such a reason. I keep all my interviewing data isolated from my private data.
- dvtrn 5y agoI have a nice collection of "throwaway" phone numbers for all kinds of reasons, while one of them is dedicated to job hunting, I don't think merely having it would have stopped this agency from sharing my CV across to whomever they shared it with, or stopped whatever leak occurred for said email address to end up in so many collections of leaked data. That was the reason: to understand where my data was leaking from, not to duck recruiter calls.
- dustyharddrive 5y ago
- devoutsalsa 5y agoThese days I just never answer the actual phone for anyone. I don’t even bother to look who is calling.
- stjohnswarts 5y agoYeah, me too. I have my 3 best friends and my mom whitelisted; everyone else can leave a message or SMS.
- jjwiseman 5y agoA scenario I hadn't thought about, that you might want to be aware of: I had to call 911 recently. I talked to the dispatcher, and hung up. A few minutes later they called me back to give me instructions. The call showed up as a regular Los Angeles 323 area code number. In fact, it was flagged by my phone as spam. It made me wonder whether reverse 911[1] calls, which are used to warn about hazmat situations, fire evacuations, and other public safety issues, show up similarly. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_9-1-1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_9-1-1
- imglorp 5y agoSame experience. It seems like an old flea market where most people don't buy anything but the vendors all buy and sell old stuff from each other to supplement.
- chana_masala 5y agoI legally changed my name two years ago and I still get recruiting emails addressed to my old name. It hasn't been on LinkedIn for equally as long, so I can only anticipate that my data was sold and my old name is cached in some database.
- brewdad 5y agoI've been out of the job market for almost 18 years and I still get a few attempted contacts a year.
- anothernewdude 5y agoEven non-recruiter HR will share your data without concern these days.