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These stories should be accompanied by whatever the journalist was researching that made them a target. I've never heard of Roberto Toledo until now, and my onl

These stories should be accompanied by whatever the journalist was researching that made them a target. I've never heard of Roberto Toledo until now, and my only knowledge of him shouldn't be that he's dead. Searching his name says that he was a cameraman and his employer was "reporting on corrupt administration and corrupt officials" but surely this is the time to be specific.

cglong 5y ago
Per the Reuters article linked in this one[1], the outlet he worked at "had been receiving threats, which it reported to local authorities, as a result of its sustained reporting on corruption in local government." [1]: https://www.reuters.com/article/mexico-violence/mexican-media-worker-killed-after-outlet-reported-death-threats-idUSL1N2UB34O https://www.reuters.com/article/mexico-violence/mexican-medi...
- ALittleLight 5y ago
  What tremendous courage reporters such as these must have to do their work.
- boomboomsubban 5y ago
  Yeah, that was the same PR statement my quote was from. "Somewhere in Michoacan there's corruption" isn't very specific.
- mirekrusin 5y ago
  Oh man, reporting to _local authorities_ on _local authorities_ corruption, what do you do? Great idea on surfacing reports that was worked on of killed journalists.
  - grapescheesee 5y ago
    I know movies and books make many reporter's into these individuals going at things alone; Cavalier and protected by brawn or a history. I agree with the parent comment. It just worries me because, how many sources, scared insiders have also been taken out? What is the full homicide rate for 2022 in Mexico? Not just the 'reporters?' If research breaks and it's not sound enough, what are the addition casualties?
Torifyme12 5y ago
- serial_dev 5y ago
  Well, that is clear (at least it's clear for anyone who knows a little bit about Mexico). What I believe the original comment meant is when a journalist is killed, at least we should attempt to include specific information about the journalist's recent articles and investigated topics in articles about a journalist's death. It's not very specific that "he investigated the ties between cartels and local officials".
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > What I believe the original comment meant is when a journalist is killed, at least we should attempt to include specific information about the journalist's recent articles and investigated topics in articles about a journalist's death. “We” who? Especially for ongoing investigations, the only people who have that information are employers/coworkers who are likely also known to (and often explicitly under threat from) the same actors. It's easy as a reader to say to them that “we” should share this information, but it’s not really a “we” that you are part of.
- hulitu 5y ago
  In other countries it is just a normal politician.
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amelius 5y ago
Perhaps they simply don't dare to be more specific ...
- fitpolar 5y ago
  U.S. journalists don’t have the courage to do journalism anymore. They wouldn’t dare go against the grain, let alone be specific on corruption. Mexican journalists should migrate, and report on both U.S. and Mexican government corruption without the threat of overt assassination.
  - shusaku 5y ago
    This is a ridiculous comment thread, the linked article is what 150 words? Why the fuss about the level of detail? That’s best left to other publications.
    - boomboomsubban 5y ago
      Because they're unlikely to ever have this level of coverage again. I've never heard of this paper, and probably will never hear more details about this murder.
- boomboomsubban 5y ago
  It's possible, and I wouldn't blame them if that's their reason. My issue with that is that they then didn't take the death threats seriously, and still put some tacit blame on the local administration. So they willingly risked their employees lives, and after someone got killed they protect their own neck but still sort of hint their employees will continue the actions.

cglong 5y ago

Per the Reuters article linked in this one[1], the outlet he worked at "had been receiving threats, which it reported to local authorities, as a result of its sustained reporting on corruption in local government." [1]: https://www.reuters.com/article/mexico-violence/mexican-media-worker-killed-after-outlet-reported-death-threats-idUSL1N2UB34O https://www.reuters.com/article/mexico-violence/mexican-medi...

ALittleLight 5y ago
What tremendous courage reporters such as these must have to do their work.
boomboomsubban 5y ago
Yeah, that was the same PR statement my quote was from. "Somewhere in Michoacan there's corruption" isn't very specific.
mirekrusin 5y ago
Oh man, reporting to _local authorities_ on _local authorities_ corruption, what do you do? Great idea on surfacing reports that was worked on of killed journalists.
- grapescheesee 5y ago
  I know movies and books make many reporter's into these individuals going at things alone; Cavalier and protected by brawn or a history. I agree with the parent comment. It just worries me because, how many sources, scared insiders have also been taken out? What is the full homicide rate for 2022 in Mexico? Not just the 'reporters?' If research breaks and it's not sound enough, what are the addition casualties?

Torifyme12 5y ago

serial_dev 5y ago
Well, that is clear (at least it's clear for anyone who knows a little bit about Mexico). What I believe the original comment meant is when a journalist is killed, at least we should attempt to include specific information about the journalist's recent articles and investigated topics in articles about a journalist's death. It's not very specific that "he investigated the ties between cartels and local officials".
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > What I believe the original comment meant is when a journalist is killed, at least we should attempt to include specific information about the journalist's recent articles and investigated topics in articles about a journalist's death. “We” who? Especially for ongoing investigations, the only people who have that information are employers/coworkers who are likely also known to (and often explicitly under threat from) the same actors. It's easy as a reader to say to them that “we” should share this information, but it’s not really a “we” that you are part of.
hulitu 5y ago
In other countries it is just a normal politician.
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amelius 5y ago

Perhaps they simply don't dare to be more specific ...

fitpolar 5y ago
U.S. journalists don’t have the courage to do journalism anymore. They wouldn’t dare go against the grain, let alone be specific on corruption. Mexican journalists should migrate, and report on both U.S. and Mexican government corruption without the threat of overt assassination.
- shusaku 5y ago
  This is a ridiculous comment thread, the linked article is what 150 words? Why the fuss about the level of detail? That’s best left to other publications.
  - boomboomsubban 5y ago
    Because they're unlikely to ever have this level of coverage again. I've never heard of this paper, and probably will never hear more details about this murder.
boomboomsubban 5y ago
It's possible, and I wouldn't blame them if that's their reason. My issue with that is that they then didn't take the death threats seriously, and still put some tacit blame on the local administration. So they willingly risked their employees lives, and after someone got killed they protect their own neck but still sort of hint their employees will continue the actions.