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You can now send replies from your Duck Addresses
- lysium 5y agoThis sounds a lot like ‚hide my email‘ by Apple. I’m still concerned what is happening with my data. With apple, I believe the illusion that it’s not necessary for them to sell my data. Do we have similar insights about duck, besides our believe they won’t sell our data?
- zibzab 5y agoDuck and Apple have some collaborations, in case that eases your mind. Nothing really guarantees anything, and your data can leak to others even without intent to monetize, as we saw with Siri. So I generally avoid services than can, not necessarily plan to, misuse my data.
- freediver 5y agoWhat is the appeal for this? Is it the @duck.com domain or removing tracking pixels in emails (which every decent email client does already anyway?).
- dreadlordbone 5y agoIt's to hide your email address from websites so they can't pass it along to someone else.
- decrypt 5y agoBoth of them. The domain and the ability to remove trackers are why I signed up when it initially launched.
- pikseladam 5y agoCan anyone share duckduckgo invitation with me?
- kashnote 5y agoDitto!
- AA-BA-94-2A-56 5y agoAt the risk of adding heaps of low effort replies, I've been waiting for my @duck address since it came out. Can someone please forward me one if they have one spare?
- encryptluks2 5y agoThere are a lot of reasons you should a custom domain instead. What happens if they shut down this service and all your important accounts are using the duck domain?
- Vinnl 5y agoI'd primarily use a service like this for the heaps of non-important accounts/mailinglists, e.g. if you're planning to make just a single transaction with a service. The advantage of not using a custom domain is that your different email addresses can't be cross-referenced, spammers can't just guess additional emails with which to reach you, and that you avoid the risk of leaking personal information via the domain. (Disclosure: I work on Firefox Relay and also use my own custom domain with a catchall.)
- encryptluks2 5y agoI meant use a custom domain with SimpleLogin or similar so you get the random email aliases but the same benefits of an anonymous email forwarder. You'd be surprised how many people think an account is not important until it is.
- Vinnl 5y agoYes, I do use that ("and also use my own custom domain"); I specifically mentioned a couple of benefits of an anonymous email forwarder with a shared domain that you do not get with your custom domain? To reiterate: - different email addresses can't be cross-referenced - spammers can't guess additional emails to reach you at - no risk of leaking personal information via the domain I appreciate that there's definitely a risk in adding a third party, but I think it's clear that there's also benefits of a shared domain, making it a trade-off? (Oh, and to be fair, with a custom domain there's a relatively similar risk: it's relatively easy to lose control of a domain.)
- aqaq2 5y ago> Will replies from my Duck Addresses hide my forwarding address? > The message will be sent from your Duck Address. Since DuckDuckGo doesn't create the message itself, we can't guarantee that it will not include your forwarding address or other identifiers.
- donutshop 5y agobasically, YMMV
- lysium 5y agoThis means they don’t check the body of the email. If you or your mail client don’t include the address, you’re safe.
- MailNerd 5y agoYou can configure most email clients and webmails to use a custom sending address. This is how it's done for mailbox.my: https://www.mailbox.my/setup_clients.html https://www.mailbox.my/setup_clients.html (Disclosure: My project)
- wyldfire 5y agoMaybe the real story is "DuckDuckGo Email Protection" [1]? I must've missed this one when it came out. > Get a free, personal @duck.com email address. Emails sent to it will forward to your regular inbox, with creepy email trackers removed. Totally genius! I fear there will be a cat-and-mouse-game but hopefully DDG will keep relatively up to date. [1] https://www.spreadprivacy.com/introducing-email-protection-beta/ https://www.spreadprivacy.com/introducing-email-protection-b...
- greenyoda 5y agoIt was easy to miss - got posted to HN several times a few months ago, but never got much traction: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=duckduckgo%20email%20protection&sort=byDate&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
- Operyl 5y agoNever got an invite, lost interest. Apple's product seems just as good to me.
- crossroadsguy 5y agoI think they kept it free, had an invite system that gave invite no one ever. Tried twice then out of mind, out of sight. Basically it seems like a gimmick or app-download-bait.
- cinntaile 5y agoI received my invite a while back. Maybe 2 months ago?
- crossroadsguy 5y agoI didn’t get. Kept the app installed for about two months. Was still waiting for beta access when I uninstalled it. I never used the app as browser or anything. Neither gave it notification permission. Maybe that was the reason.
- TheRealNGenius 5y agoI signed up for the beta like 1 month ago, and I'm still waiting for the approval notification. Still don't have access to my duck address
- unanimous 5y agoYou might not get a notification when you get into the beta. That's what happened to me and someone else who told me about it. Check the DuckDuckGo app every once in a while to see if you're in.
- pottertheotter 5y agoSame. I only found out through the app that I was in.
- _1tan 5y agoIs there an invite system? Haven't signed up so far.
- kaumnen 5y agoYeah, you need to download their browser app, go to settings and join the waitlist
- runnerup 5y agoIf I'm running my own email server, will this help my outgoing messages get past the GMail/Exchange "spam" filters?
- alexb_ 5y agoBetter question - will this help spammers get past the spam filters?
- usr1106 5y agoI have used such service for some 20 years. It's called sneakemail.com (paid service) It's great. I have several hundreds of addresses, and only a dozen or so I had to close because they started to produce spam. Interesting enough most of them pretty renowned businesses from the days when privacy policies did not exist. The nasty thing is that an increasing number of businesses block such onetime addresses (there are lists on github). Linux Foundation a prominent offender. They send me their marketing BS, but I cannot unsubscribe because "my address is invalid". My bank is a recent addition. They still send me email, but several functions in my online banking don't work because I have to "confirm" my email first and the one they have on file and works is not accepted. I hope such services would be widely used that no serious business can afford to block them.
- ohthehugemanate 5y agoI've been a spamgourmet user and fan for... must be 20 years now. Great service. I haven't run into any blockers like you describe, but I've long dreaded the day when I do.
- squarefoot 5y ago+1! Sneakemail is fantastic and well worth the money. I use it since 2007 but avoided mentioning it anywhere because of fear it could be banned by spammers; some already do. They probably will have to change their domain name one day.
- remus 5y ago> I hope such services would be widely used that no serious business can afford to block them. From a businesses point of view it's a tricky one because disposable addresses are widely used when someone's trying to abuse a service. Personally I find blocking email providers pretty gross, but you can see how someone facing a torrent of malicious traffic from accounts associated with disposable addresses could get annoyed enough to just block them.
- statico 5y agoI have also been a sneakemail user for probably 15 years and have accumulated over a thousand addresses. Two years ago I switched to using a catchall .com domain because the sneakemail domains are blocked so frequently. Domains from other services like 10minutemail.com and fakenamegenerator.com tend to be blocked, too. Plus addressing is also hit or miss — sometimes a system will let you sign up with a plus addressed email but other parts of the system will reject it (ahem, banks). 15 years ago, a catchall email domain was unthinkable since spammers would try dictionaries of words against a domain in hopes of finding legitimate email addresses. However, this no longer seems to be a trend.
- socceroos 5y agoFirefox Relay is a very similar service. I've been very impressed with it - does exactly what I need to protect my email. They don't do replies yet, though.
- Zhycrin 5y agoThey do as part of the paid service for $1 per month.
- AtlasBarfed 5y agoHey, can you guys scoop up the zombie remnants of Keybase? Doesn't that align well with DDG?
- bb88 5y agoReminds me anon.petit.fi from 30 or so years ago.
- ptman 5y agoanon.penet.fi? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penet_remailer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penet_remailer
- encryptluks2 5y agoSimpleLogin had had this for a while and has an open source Android app on F-Droid. I'd recommend using a custom domain.
- zzzaim 5y agoYes, was just going to comment this... Worth mentioning that its back-end app[1] is also open source, not just their Android[2] and iOS[3] apps. So basically open source + custom domain = no lock in. But I'm not so sure how easy it is to set up your own back-end server (I imagine it's like setting up your own email server, which isn't trivial) [1]: https://github.com/simple-login/app https://github.com/simple-login/app [2]: https://github.com/simple-login/Simple-Login-Android https://github.com/simple-login/Simple-Login-Android [3]: https://github.com/simple-login/Simple-Login-iOS https://github.com/simple-login/Simple-Login-iOS
- coffeeblack 5y ago> Since it’s common for sites to upload your email address to Google and Facebook… Is this true? That sounds very illegal, at least in Europe under GDPR.
- jazzyjackson 5y agoAs soon as a company signs up to facebook for a marketing campaign, yes, the first step is to upload a list of all the emails of all of your customers so that facebook can associate users with your emails and build look-alike audiences, advertising to people similar in one dimension or another to your existing customers I don't know about GDPR, but usually a company has your email after you do business with them, so you probably implicitly agreed at some "continue" button to let them use your email as a part of marketing campaigns.
- 878654Tom 5y agoI'm currently using Firefox Relay [1] and quite happy with it, especially with the plugin that makes it easy to create an e-mail on the website itself and Firefox will remember which website created which e-mail. I have noticed that more websites are starting to block Mozmail but I am quite happy about the services so I will probably buy the subscription service and use a custom domain. [1] https://relay.firefox.com https://relay.firefox.com
- terrycody 5y agoyes good service, +1
- throwaway48375 5y ago♥ Firefox
- echelon 5y agoHow did that get through the emoji filter?
- throwaway48375 5y agoIt is a unicode symbol like ⌕ or ֍ not an emoji. It is easy to remember because it is ALT+3 in Windows.
- zeepzeep 5y agoI have the paid version and just use another trash mail service if moZmaiL.com is blocked
- geophertz 5y agoOnce mozmail was blocked however the custom email domain (paid feature) was not.
- jazzyjackson 5y agoAccording to the DDG browser I just downloaded to get in line for an invite, Hacker News gets a B+ in privacy, marked down for having "unknown privacy practices" -- what can a poor webmaster do to make their privacy practices known to gatekeepers such as this here duck?
- Vinnl 5y agoDDG gets that data from ToS;dr, which is a volunteer-run project - so one could volunteer their review there. (See https://edit.tosdr.org https://edit.tosdr.org.) (Disclosure: I volunteered for ToS;dr.)
- jazzyjackson 5y agogood to know, thanks :) I see it says that now, it just didn't register to me
- mattjenner 5y agoyou can email duck.com to forward your address to another address. Would't that create a super easy MITM attack if someone stole your address and forwarded it to theirs??
- esseti 5y agohas someone an invite?
- chirau 5y agoDoes anyone have an extra invite code to try this out? I'd love one
- tao_oat 5y agoIt's great to see all these services catching up to each other, though I've noticed that their privacy guarantees aren't always clear. For example, Firefox Relay just uses AWS SES to receive/send emails, whereas DuckDuckGo actually have their own mailing infrastructure! I've been working on a similar project: https://shroud.email https://shroud.email. It currently has basic tracker blocking like duck.com, but it's FLOSS and I'm working on docs for self-hosting.
- tomjonesey 5y ago
- jordanpg 5y agoI assume I am not alone in thinking that Duck Duck Go would be far more popular if they had not selected such a dumb name. Great work, but they desperately need to rebrand.
- psanford 5y agoI run something like this for myself, built on top of AWS SES and Lambda: https://github.com/psanford/lambda-email https://github.com/psanford/lambda-email
- ezconnect 5y agoRequires iOS 13.0 to install duckduckgo app
- dbsmith83 5y ago> For most Duck Addresses, replies just work. Simply reply to any email sent to one of your Duck Addresses as you normally would. We route your replies through duck.com so they're delivered from the Duck Address they were sent to. If your forwarding address is on a unique domain without an SPF record, replies sent from Duck Addresses aren't supported. Does this work with gmail for anyone else? It definitely does not for me.
- stergios 5y agoIt is not working for me either. I have gmail as the hidden address behind duck. When I replied to a test message, the email did not "route" through duck.com. It went directly to the originator, where my gmail address was revealed.
- stergios 5y agoA day later, and after I received an email from Duck telling me the feature was now operational, it now works as intended. Seems like there was a light delay in rolling out, or perhaps a bit too early PR.
- dbsmith83 5y agoUPDATE: It now works for me. I got an email from duck telling me about the feature, so I guess they are rolling this out slowly instead of to everyone at once.
- grae_QED 5y agoI think the coolest part for me is that now I know duck.com redirects to DuckDuckGo.