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Or, a feral cat who has been shitting in your planter boxes and eating your birds is fair game. Easy to treat it like a raccoon that decides to live under your

Or, a feral cat who has been shitting in your planter boxes and eating your birds is fair game. Easy to treat it like a raccoon that decides to live under your porch, there’s no difference.

MisterTea 5y ago
Or a human who thinks planter boxes are worth more than a living thing. Easy to treat it like subhuman that lives under a bridge, there's no difference.
- changoplatanero 5y ago
  Isn't the purpose of planter boxes to grow living things?
- thomquaid 5y ago
  Plants are living things.
- anonfornoreason 5y ago
  Or a human who is tired of his small children picking up literal cat feces from the feral cat who is pooping in their planters. I would recommend looking up Toxoplasma Gondii. You can also enjoy this classic comic to help re-align you on how many birds cats kill: https://theoatmeal.com/comics/cats_actually_kill https://theoatmeal.com/comics/cats_actually_kill
kube-system 5y ago
Pests are typically defined by species under the law.
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hbarka 5y ago
Association found between cruelty to animals and violent and psychopath behavior https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/domestic-violence-animal-cruelty-abuse-neglect-murder-children-dogs-a9018071.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/domestic-viole...
- kayodelycaon 5y ago
  Shooting an animal is only "cruelty" in the legal definition. People shoot and trap animals all the time without being psychopaths. Wisconsin generally allows any land owner to shoot/trap coyote, beaver, fox, raccoon, woodchuck, rabbit, and squirrel.
  - alar44 5y ago
    Any land owner who's attended a hunter's safety course and has purchased a small game license and during the appropriate season. There are exceptions for some pests and farmers as well, but, no, in Wisconsin you can't just shoot animals.
  - Hizonner 5y ago
    Shooting an animal with ammunition too small to kill it quickly is cruelty. Wounding an animal and failing to track it down and finish it off is cruelty. Shooting when you're not confident you will make the kill is cruelty. These are pretty basic things.
- anonfornoreason 5y ago
  I do agree pellets are mostly cruel for a creature that size since they don’t ensure a clean and quick kill.
- brimble 5y ago
  You will find that people who grew up on farms or just in the country have a very different definition of "cruelty to animals". Shooting a pest animal is just a Tuesday. Not worth mentioning or remembering. Doing it with the pellet gun instead of the .22 or shotgun is because you were feeling magnanimous that day, or you sold out and moved to the 'burbs but still don't want pests wrecking your stuff, and don't want to risk discharging a real firearm. A cat that you don't have around on purpose very well may qualify as a pest animal. Know how people complain about outdoor cats killing enormous numbers of birds? You got a bird feeder or birdhouse, and a cat is hanging around it, that's a pest animal. Got chickens, or other fowl, same ("how will a cat kill a chicken?" Well, 1. you'd be surprised, and 2. most people keep chicks inside but juvenile chickens exist and tend to live outdoors). Just prefer not to have wild predators spreading disease to your own pets or livestock, same. That it only got a pellet means this is its lucky day. Blame the people who keep breeding more damn cats than the world needs, or assholes who abandon their pets if they decide they don't want them. Listen to Bob Barker, folks. ... that out of the way, there are way too many people who do shoot stuff, and even animals, that they have no reason to and probably shouldn't, for fun. Some may be psychopaths, but I'd bet most are just actual card-carrying morons with poor impulse control. All are best avoided.
wrs 5y ago
To be clear, this particular cat was not feral. But if you’re going to kill an animal, then take responsibility and kill it, don’t just use it for target practice.
mint2 5y ago
While I did electrocute a problem rat one time when I couldn’t think of any way to deter it, it seems very cavalier to shoot a cat or raccoon for the crime of living under a porch. It’s just trying to survive and do it’s thing.
- anonfornoreason 5y ago
  Neighbor had 16k in damage from the raccoon living under porch. Found a screen into crawl space, destroyed water pipes, flooded crawl space and caused extensive water damage to flooring. Gut and remodel bathroom and adjoining wall.
- alar44 5y ago
  Feral cats are absolutely wrecking bird populations. They are legitimate pests.

Or, a feral cat who has been shitting in your planter boxes and eating your birds is fair game. Easy to treat it like a raccoon that decides to live under your porch, there’s no difference.

MisterTea 5y ago

Or a human who thinks planter boxes are worth more than a living thing. Easy to treat it like subhuman that lives under a bridge, there's no difference.

changoplatanero 5y ago
Isn't the purpose of planter boxes to grow living things?
thomquaid 5y ago
Plants are living things.
anonfornoreason 5y ago
Or a human who is tired of his small children picking up literal cat feces from the feral cat who is pooping in their planters. I would recommend looking up Toxoplasma Gondii. You can also enjoy this classic comic to help re-align you on how many birds cats kill: https://theoatmeal.com/comics/cats_actually_kill https://theoatmeal.com/comics/cats_actually_kill

kube-system 5y ago

Pests are typically defined by species under the law.

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hbarka 5y ago

Association found between cruelty to animals and violent and psychopath behavior https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/domestic-violence-animal-cruelty-abuse-neglect-murder-children-dogs-a9018071.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/domestic-viole...

kayodelycaon 5y ago
Shooting an animal is only "cruelty" in the legal definition. People shoot and trap animals all the time without being psychopaths. Wisconsin generally allows any land owner to shoot/trap coyote, beaver, fox, raccoon, woodchuck, rabbit, and squirrel.
- alar44 5y ago
  Any land owner who's attended a hunter's safety course and has purchased a small game license and during the appropriate season. There are exceptions for some pests and farmers as well, but, no, in Wisconsin you can't just shoot animals.
- Hizonner 5y ago
  Shooting an animal with ammunition too small to kill it quickly is cruelty. Wounding an animal and failing to track it down and finish it off is cruelty. Shooting when you're not confident you will make the kill is cruelty. These are pretty basic things.
anonfornoreason 5y ago
I do agree pellets are mostly cruel for a creature that size since they don’t ensure a clean and quick kill.
brimble 5y ago
You will find that people who grew up on farms or just in the country have a very different definition of "cruelty to animals". Shooting a pest animal is just a Tuesday. Not worth mentioning or remembering. Doing it with the pellet gun instead of the .22 or shotgun is because you were feeling magnanimous that day, or you sold out and moved to the 'burbs but still don't want pests wrecking your stuff, and don't want to risk discharging a real firearm. A cat that you don't have around on purpose very well may qualify as a pest animal. Know how people complain about outdoor cats killing enormous numbers of birds? You got a bird feeder or birdhouse, and a cat is hanging around it, that's a pest animal. Got chickens, or other fowl, same ("how will a cat kill a chicken?" Well, 1. you'd be surprised, and 2. most people keep chicks inside but juvenile chickens exist and tend to live outdoors). Just prefer not to have wild predators spreading disease to your own pets or livestock, same. That it only got a pellet means this is its lucky day. Blame the people who keep breeding more damn cats than the world needs, or assholes who abandon their pets if they decide they don't want them. Listen to Bob Barker, folks. ... that out of the way, there are way too many people who do shoot stuff, and even animals, that they have no reason to and probably shouldn't, for fun. Some may be psychopaths, but I'd bet most are just actual card-carrying morons with poor impulse control. All are best avoided.

wrs 5y ago

To be clear, this particular cat was not feral. But if you’re going to kill an animal, then take responsibility and kill it, don’t just use it for target practice.

mint2 5y ago

While I did electrocute a problem rat one time when I couldn’t think of any way to deter it, it seems very cavalier to shoot a cat or raccoon for the crime of living under a porch. It’s just trying to survive and do it’s thing.

anonfornoreason 5y ago
Neighbor had 16k in damage from the raccoon living under porch. Found a screen into crawl space, destroyed water pipes, flooded crawl space and caused extensive water damage to flooring. Gut and remodel bathroom and adjoining wall.
alar44 5y ago
Feral cats are absolutely wrecking bird populations. They are legitimate pests.