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Technology and Crime. This is a very Bay Area story.

klyrs 5y ago
Because folks in rural areas never get drunk and shoot random shit that isn't theirs? When I worked at Boeing, we had a recurring problem, that airplane fuselages were shipped by rail, and they were frequently pierced by multiple bullet holes. This is one of those instances where the urban/rural crime gap is partly explained by the reliability of crime reporting.
- rootsudo 5y ago
  Well that's just a Renton/Seattle/Everett thing.
  - klyrs 5y ago
    Why would would you conclude that? There's a whole lot of rail between Wichita (Kansas), where the 37 fuselages were made, and Renton, where they were delivered.
- syshum 5y ago
  >>we had a recurring problem, that airplane fuselages were shipped by rail, and they were frequently pierced by multiple bullet holes And you believe this was from Rural Area's? Why? I see alot of train damage, vandalism, graffiti, and gun shots occurring in urban area's
  - klyrs 5y ago
    Stop signs are another common target of vandals in rural areas; in some places, they've all been blasted with a shotgun at least once. I've spent a lot of time in rural parts, and have witnessed quite a few incidents of bored, drunk kids shooting shit up. And, more to the point, I've seen shot-up fuselages on a train in Ellensburg, heading West. Those gunshots didn't happen in the Seattle area.
    - syshum 5y ago
      that must be a west coast thing then, because here in the Mid-West where corn out numbers people I do not see any sign's shot up... Teen Pranks of Spray painting a 1 in front of the 60 on a speed limit is about is far is I have seen When we go plinking here we are shooting cans, jugs, and other trash. Not road signs, and power cables
      - alar44 5y ago
        Midwest checking in. I see stop signs shot up all over the rural place. Are you pretending that you don't know what a redneck is?
        syshum 5y ago
        Since you are using the term redneck I doubt you are from the midwest ( Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota, and Wisconsin. ) or if you are you are from a Urban city center not a farm... Redneck is more of a southern state term, many southern states (like TN and KY) are confused as Mid-west, they are not
        alar44 5y ago
        You can think whatever you'd like.
- edmcnulty101 5y ago
  No. Folks in rural areas get drunk all the time and go shooting. We just don't have fiber connections all over the place to hit accidentally.
dekhn 5y ago
Fiber optic cables in Oregon are owned by the state and run above ground, hunters around the area would occasionally shoot out the major lines "accidentally while hunting"
- edmcnulty101 5y ago
  Got a link to a story about it?
  - dekhn 5y ago
    I googled it for you. https://www.itnews.com.au/news/us-hunters-shoot-down-google-fibre-232831 https://www.itnews.com.au/news/us-hunters-shoot-down-google-...
    - edmcnulty101 5y ago
      Glorious. Maybe it's a West Coast thing. In most of the south, besides maybe Austin or Atl, we ain't got no fiber to be shootin'.
      - dekhn 5y ago
        There's something Special about Oregon and fiber optic placement (at least, that's what I was told at the time; the article says instead this was Google owned fiber that was undergrounded eventually). AT&T Fiber is in Austin. In my neighborhood, that's delivered via the overhead lines. My internet connection is literally a fiber that drops form a cable in my backyard from a bigger fiber, through my wall, into a fiber terminator. If you shot at that cable, about 500 people might lose access. In other locations, I assume they undergrounded conduits a long time ago and run the fiber through that to a local box, which then either runs underground to houses, or ... over poles that drop to houses. it really is a series of tubes

Because folks in rural areas never get drunk and shoot random shit that isn't theirs? When I worked at Boeing, we had a recurring problem, that airplane fuselages were shipped by rail, and they were frequently pierced by multiple bullet holes. This is one of those instances where the urban/rural crime gap is partly explained by the reliability of crime reporting.

rootsudo 5y ago
Well that's just a Renton/Seattle/Everett thing.
- klyrs 5y ago
  Why would would you conclude that? There's a whole lot of rail between Wichita (Kansas), where the 37 fuselages were made, and Renton, where they were delivered.
syshum 5y ago
>>we had a recurring problem, that airplane fuselages were shipped by rail, and they were frequently pierced by multiple bullet holes And you believe this was from Rural Area's? Why? I see alot of train damage, vandalism, graffiti, and gun shots occurring in urban area's
- klyrs 5y ago
  Stop signs are another common target of vandals in rural areas; in some places, they've all been blasted with a shotgun at least once. I've spent a lot of time in rural parts, and have witnessed quite a few incidents of bored, drunk kids shooting shit up. And, more to the point, I've seen shot-up fuselages on a train in Ellensburg, heading West. Those gunshots didn't happen in the Seattle area.
  - syshum 5y ago
    that must be a west coast thing then, because here in the Mid-West where corn out numbers people I do not see any sign's shot up... Teen Pranks of Spray painting a 1 in front of the 60 on a speed limit is about is far is I have seen When we go plinking here we are shooting cans, jugs, and other trash. Not road signs, and power cables
    - alar44 5y ago
      Midwest checking in. I see stop signs shot up all over the rural place. Are you pretending that you don't know what a redneck is?
      - syshum 5y ago
        Since you are using the term redneck I doubt you are from the midwest ( Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota, and Wisconsin. ) or if you are you are from a Urban city center not a farm... Redneck is more of a southern state term, many southern states (like TN and KY) are confused as Mid-west, they are not
        alar44 5y ago
        You can think whatever you'd like.
edmcnulty101 5y ago
No. Folks in rural areas get drunk all the time and go shooting. We just don't have fiber connections all over the place to hit accidentally.

dekhn 5y ago

Fiber optic cables in Oregon are owned by the state and run above ground, hunters around the area would occasionally shoot out the major lines "accidentally while hunting"

edmcnulty101 5y ago
Got a link to a story about it?
- dekhn 5y ago
  I googled it for you. https://www.itnews.com.au/news/us-hunters-shoot-down-google-fibre-232831 https://www.itnews.com.au/news/us-hunters-shoot-down-google-...
  - edmcnulty101 5y ago
    Glorious. Maybe it's a West Coast thing. In most of the south, besides maybe Austin or Atl, we ain't got no fiber to be shootin'.
    - dekhn 5y ago
      There's something Special about Oregon and fiber optic placement (at least, that's what I was told at the time; the article says instead this was Google owned fiber that was undergrounded eventually). AT&T Fiber is in Austin. In my neighborhood, that's delivered via the overhead lines. My internet connection is literally a fiber that drops form a cable in my backyard from a bigger fiber, through my wall, into a fiber terminator. If you shot at that cable, about 500 people might lose access. In other locations, I assume they undergrounded conduits a long time ago and run the fiber through that to a local box, which then either runs underground to houses, or ... over poles that drop to houses. it really is a series of tubes