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Anyone knows dev working within that industry? Any insight in the rationalization of creating tools to essentially spy on the whole wide world? Always curious
by BaconPackets 5y ago
Anyone knows dev working within that industry? Any insight in the rationalization of creating tools to essentially spy on the whole wide world?
Always curious to see how we can rationalize these kind of purpose in life.
- gambiting 5y agoUsually 1) money 2) the belief that if you don't build it then someone else will, so might as well be paid for it first At least I imagine that's the only way people who build spyware and blockchain technologies can sleep at night.
- sandis 5y agoso 1) money
- gambiting 5y agoI mean, there are people who work for ideological reasons instead(hackers working for FBI/MI5 despite low pay for instance), and in sure there are people in Israel who take this job to do the service to their country and such, and not just the salary.
- amelius 5y agoOther options may include the intellectual challenge, using the spyware for personal gains, and holding a grudge against Google/Apple.
- dannyw 5y agoLOVEINT (spooks spying on their romantic interests, present or past) isn't unheard of.
- thehappypm 5y agoNational security, which in Israel’s case means ethnic security.
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- blip54321 5y agoI don't think so... I think the major driving force is machismo and competition. People I've met have into this sort of thing have an image of themselves as Matrix-style hackers. It's easy for business types to exploit that. Be the best hacker working with the best hackers in the world.
- yonixw 5y agohttps://www.nsogroup.com/about-us/ https://www.nsogroup.com/about-us/ ".. Developing technology to prevent and investigate terror and crime" I guess that their initial intentions were good, but a lot of clients (govs) abused it. It's still their fault for not acknowledging or putting breaks for these kind of actions.
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- tremon 5y agoThat just shows that they have an adequate PR department. It says nothing about the company's intentions.
- bell-cot 5y agoIANAEG (...Not An Evil Genius), but it seems safe to assume that a lot of folks in that line of work do not share much of your worldview or value system, to need to do any "rationalizing" before doing such things. (Actually, you might want to read a few works of fiction which feature well-written Evil Geniuses. Or some "I was a CIA agent..." biographies.)
- brian_cunnie 5y ago> well-written Evil Geniuses. Or some "I was a CIA agent..." biographies I think it's important to remember that CIA agents are people, and not necessarily evil or geniuses. The one former CIA agent I know is to this day haunted by the time he killed a civilian during the Vietnam war over fifty years ago.
- richardfey 5y agoWhat's the story? It sounds interesting
- theduder99 5y ago1 tim 6:10
- AniseAbyss 5y agoPatriotism? The average American will immediately yell "mein Fuhrer!"when the CIA calls I imagine it is the same for Israelis.
- KKKKkkkk1 5y agoStopping violent radicals is a pretty good motivation.
- wolverine876 5y agoNSO is radical - disrupting security and human rights worldwide - and, in a broad sense, violent.
- saagarjha 5y agoObviously, NSO considers themselves to be stopping the “bad guys” making themselves the “good guys”.
- gostsamo 5y agoRecently a company from the sphere considered hiring me. The way they spin it was that this is all about fighting criminals and terrorists.