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That doesn't make 10% not bad. But lets exclude expensive cars. How come Tesla is worse than cheap cars then? > The worst by far, however, was the Tesla Model
by tjoff 5y ago
That doesn't make 10% not bad. But lets exclude expensive cars. How come Tesla is worse than cheap cars then?
> The worst by far, however, was the Tesla Model S. 10.7 percent of the model showed up for testing with a defect of some sort. Not only was this the worst EV in the study, the Model S placed third-to-last out of all cars, including ICE vehicles, only besting the Dacia Logan and Dacia Duster.
But even so, another huge factor is how expensive it is to fix the typical errors. Is it $5 in parts and 2 minutes you can do yourself or $1000 and two days at a shop?
- tjansen 5y ago> That doesn't make 10% not bad. But lets exclude expensive cars. How come Tesla is worse than cheap cars then? Even when you buy a brand new cheap car, like a Dacia, you typically go to your dealership for inspections in the first couple of years. The percentage of owners who do this is certainly lower than for the premium brands, but still much higher than for Tesla if Tesla doesn't have any dealerships that offer the HU+AU inspections (that's what they are called).
- cycomanic 5y agoIn other words Tesla with their expensive cars doesn't even offer the service that even the cheapest other manufacturers offer. So they essentially push the onto their customers
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- microtherion 5y agoIt's all a matter of picking the right peer group. If you compare the Tesla only against the Dacia, it would be the most reliable car in Romania!
- adolph 5y agoIn Soviet Russia, the car was not inspected, you were! (In the year 2035, most other nations are similar since social creditworthiness is part of car inspection.)
- seanmcdirmid 5y ago> But even so, another huge factor is how expensive it is to fix the typical errors. Is it $5 in parts and 2 minutes you can do yourself or $1000 and two days at a shop? It could be that their first aid kit is out of compliance, those tests are really strict about things like that.
- namdnay 5y agoWhat's strange is that Dacias are extremely reliable. They're built with 10-15 year old Renault components, which means they'll never be cutting edge, but they have great hindsight on what is reliable and what isn't
- paganel 5y ago> What's strange is that Dacias are extremely reliable. I'm Romanian and I was very surprised seeing this chart because, yes, relatively speaking they are pretty reliable. I think this part of OP's comment explains it best why that happened: > TÜV is where people go who want to save money by skipping the dealership. Most people who do this drive cheaper cars. That's why cheap cars are always having much worse numbers in these statistics. As Dacia are some of the cheapest models on the market that would explain this chart.
- rightbyte 5y agoI guess people that buy Dacia cheap out on service of it at a greater degree than other brands.
- hiptobecubic 5y agoYouTube complainers seem to think that it's more like six weeks in the shop. They post recordings of service calls where Tesla says things like, "Sorry the parts are not available. Tesla's priority is making new cars, not service and repairs," which is pretty shocking to hear.
- johannes1234321 5y ago> How come Tesla is worse than cheap cars then? A primary point of complaint in the report are the breaks. In an electrical vehicle most of the time you break by using the engine as generator instead of using the breaking pads. Since they aren't used they corrode. In a cheap Dacia you don't have that luxury.
- hutzlibu 5y ago"TÜV is where people go who want to save money by skipping the dealership." I would just add, that most normal car repair stations offer that service, too. Meaning your repair guy takes your car in, checks and fixes everything - and takes it to the TÜV. (and often they know the TÜV guy quite well, so also in germany there quite some cars with substandard safety)