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Fuchsia already runs Java code with Android's DalvikVM

52 points by bestorworse 5y ago

ksec 5y ago
Ok I am not an Android User and I dont follow Fuchsia closely, but I thought DalvikVM was discontinued on Android? And why having Java running on DalvikVM, which we fully expected to do so, is news worthy? What are the context here?
- vlovich123 5y ago
  DalvikVM probably can still run a lot of Android apps/power Android development. ART probably requires OS features that aren't implemented yet to do the JIT safely. I'm sure this is the first step to enable parallel development so that people can start developing Android apps on Fuschia while the OS team works on support to get ART running. The context is replacing the Linux part of Android with Fuschia or at least letting Fuschia share with Android's userspace SW ecosystem even if Android continues to use Linux.
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    Dalvik is gone, it is all ART now, the name stayed for compatibility purposes. > binary: "system/apex/com.android.art.debug/bin/dalvikvm64", ==> com.android.art.debug
    - ladyanita22 5y ago
      So this is ART actually?
tasubotadas 5y ago
What's fuchsia?
- voxadam 5y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuchsia_(operating_system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuchsia_(operating_system)
mark_l_watson 5y ago
Way off target (sorry) but I wonder when consumer Chromebook-like devices running Fushia will be generally available. It is partly because of some dissatisfaction with Apple that I have been looking kindly at Chromebooks. For the price of a magic keyboard cover for an iPad Pro, I bought a Lenovo Chromebook last year (including a keyboard cover with trackpad and pen stylus) that does fine for enjoying all types of media, and if I don’t run anything else then the Linux container system is adequate for some light weight development. If Fushia ends up being good, I look forward to something like a Chromebook that uses it.
- pjmlp 5y ago
  Currently it is the Nest OS, it remains to be seen when it will move beyond that. Android Things nee Brillo, didn't last long after being released with hype. You are better off buying a proper Linux laptop from an Linux OEM like Tuxedo.
  - mark_l_watson 5y ago
    I have a fabulous System76 Linux laptop
    - pjmlp 5y ago
      So you already have your ChromeOS, just by starting Chrome. :)
- pier25 5y ago
  Fuchsia could very well become a universal OS (mobile, desktop, tv, wearables). Not sure what are Google's intentions though. Maybe they will end up killing it as they typically do.
vips7L 5y ago
So it can run a 10 year old version of Java?

52 points by bestorworse 5y ago

ksec 5y ago

Ok I am not an Android User and I dont follow Fuchsia closely, but I thought DalvikVM was discontinued on Android? And why having Java running on DalvikVM, which we fully expected to do so, is news worthy? What are the context here?

vlovich123 5y ago
DalvikVM probably can still run a lot of Android apps/power Android development. ART probably requires OS features that aren't implemented yet to do the JIT safely. I'm sure this is the first step to enable parallel development so that people can start developing Android apps on Fuschia while the OS team works on support to get ART running. The context is replacing the Linux part of Android with Fuschia or at least letting Fuschia share with Android's userspace SW ecosystem even if Android continues to use Linux.
- pjmlp 5y ago
  Dalvik is gone, it is all ART now, the name stayed for compatibility purposes. > binary: "system/apex/com.android.art.debug/bin/dalvikvm64", ==> com.android.art.debug
  - ladyanita22 5y ago
    So this is ART actually?

tasubotadas 5y ago

What's fuchsia?

voxadam 5y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuchsia_(operating_system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuchsia_(operating_system)

mark_l_watson 5y ago

Way off target (sorry) but I wonder when consumer Chromebook-like devices running Fushia will be generally available. It is partly because of some dissatisfaction with Apple that I have been looking kindly at Chromebooks. For the price of a magic keyboard cover for an iPad Pro, I bought a Lenovo Chromebook last year (including a keyboard cover with trackpad and pen stylus) that does fine for enjoying all types of media, and if I don’t run anything else then the Linux container system is adequate for some light weight development. If Fushia ends up being good, I look forward to something like a Chromebook that uses it.

pjmlp 5y ago
Currently it is the Nest OS, it remains to be seen when it will move beyond that. Android Things nee Brillo, didn't last long after being released with hype. You are better off buying a proper Linux laptop from an Linux OEM like Tuxedo.
- mark_l_watson 5y ago
  I have a fabulous System76 Linux laptop
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    So you already have your ChromeOS, just by starting Chrome. :)
pier25 5y ago
Fuchsia could very well become a universal OS (mobile, desktop, tv, wearables). Not sure what are Google's intentions though. Maybe they will end up killing it as they typically do.

vips7L 5y ago

So it can run a 10 year old version of Java?