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Snowden interviewed from Moscow, complaining about the intelligence services in Denmark. Hard to imagine how one could be a more useful idiot for the Russian i

Snowden interviewed from Moscow, complaining about the intelligence services in Denmark. Hard to imagine how one could be a more useful idiot for the Russian intelligence services.

invalidname 5y ago
I appreciate Snoden and understand him. But you're probably right, Russia is far worse than anything the NSA did.
tinus_hn 5y ago
I’m sure he’d love to move to a better place if a certain government didn’t make that impossible.
- jonahbenton 5y ago
  Let's talk about what "impossible" means. If he had done, or were to do, to Russia, what he did to the United States, he would be dead. Full stop. Pun intended. And then, he truly would have moved to a better place, if you believe that sort of thing. He could attempt a return to a country in the US orbit, and he would have to go to jail for a while. So, not in a better place, in a way. But he would be alive, and in a place with some integrity, which is better in other ways. It is not impossible, in other words, for him to move to "better" places. We see very clearly his priorities in his decision while on Russian soil to speak to the actions of other intelligence services while maintaining silence on the actions of Russian intelligence. If he had any integrity at all he would at minimum maintain silence.
raxxorrax 5y ago
As if Russia was relevant here. He leaked info about your own state spying on you. If you just accept that because said government points its finger to a far off useful antagonist, like it has done in the last election, I don't think throwing around terms like useful idiot is too adequate.
- jonahbenton 5y ago
  It sounds like you are not in the US, and don't have a solid grasp on the dynamics. I count myself among those who stand for democracy, of which the US is a poor but still extent example. Russia is, needless to say, not a democracy. For all the faults of the US, humans in the world would be vastly less well off with Russia, or China, in positions of supremacy. Snowden's actions, at the end of the day, were damaging for democracy. And every day he does the work of Russian intelligence- wittingly or no- is another day he damages democracy. I'm sorry if that isn't clear to you. It is to me. Best wishes.

Snowden interviewed from Moscow, complaining about the intelligence services in Denmark. Hard to imagine how one could be a more useful idiot for the Russian intelligence services.

invalidname 5y ago

I appreciate Snoden and understand him. But you're probably right, Russia is far worse than anything the NSA did.

tinus_hn 5y ago

I’m sure he’d love to move to a better place if a certain government didn’t make that impossible.

jonahbenton 5y ago
Let's talk about what "impossible" means. If he had done, or were to do, to Russia, what he did to the United States, he would be dead. Full stop. Pun intended. And then, he truly would have moved to a better place, if you believe that sort of thing. He could attempt a return to a country in the US orbit, and he would have to go to jail for a while. So, not in a better place, in a way. But he would be alive, and in a place with some integrity, which is better in other ways. It is not impossible, in other words, for him to move to "better" places. We see very clearly his priorities in his decision while on Russian soil to speak to the actions of other intelligence services while maintaining silence on the actions of Russian intelligence. If he had any integrity at all he would at minimum maintain silence.

raxxorrax 5y ago

As if Russia was relevant here. He leaked info about your own state spying on you. If you just accept that because said government points its finger to a far off useful antagonist, like it has done in the last election, I don't think throwing around terms like useful idiot is too adequate.

jonahbenton 5y ago
It sounds like you are not in the US, and don't have a solid grasp on the dynamics. I count myself among those who stand for democracy, of which the US is a poor but still extent example. Russia is, needless to say, not a democracy. For all the faults of the US, humans in the world would be vastly less well off with Russia, or China, in positions of supremacy. Snowden's actions, at the end of the day, were damaging for democracy. And every day he does the work of Russian intelligence- wittingly or no- is another day he damages democracy. I'm sorry if that isn't clear to you. It is to me. Best wishes.