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"I can't think of a comprehensive, fully closed-loop solution right now..." The ZFS snapshots that you may configure on an rsync.net account are immutable. Th
by rsync 5y ago
"I can't think of a comprehensive, fully closed-loop solution right now..."
The ZFS snapshots that you may configure on an rsync.net account are immutable.
There are no credentials that can be presented to destroy them or alter their rotation other than our account manager whose changes always pass by a set of human eyes. Which is to say, no 'zfs' commands are ever automated.
So the short answer is you simply point borg backup to rsync.net and configure some days/weeks/months of snapshots.
The long answer - if you're interested:
https://twitter.com/rsyncnet/status/1470669611200770048 https://twitter.com/rsyncnet/status/1470669611200770048
... skip to 52:20 for "how to destroy an rsync.net account":
"... Another thing that lights up big and red on our screen is ... someone's got a big schedule of snapshots ... and then they change it to zero ... you've got seven days and four weeks and six months but we want to change that to zero days of snapshots. We see those things ... and we reach out to people."
- selykg 5y agoRe: HN rsync.net discounts. Is that basically the Borg specific product? Or is there some discount on the normal rsync.net service? The Borg product misses one important thing for me and that is sub accounts. But the price difference between them is pretty large. I don't need the hand holding service, I already use the Borg service you provide but definitely would prefer having the sub accounts and possibly the ZFS snapshots might be useful.
- amluto 5y agoI’m a bit confused. https://www.rsync.net/products/borg.html https://www.rsync.net/products/borg.html says that, with the Borg pricing, there are no free snapshots. Are there non-free snapshots? The Borg pricing is quite competitive with S3 Glacier, although Deep Archive seems to have you beat. (Of course, Deep Archive loses badly if you actually read the data…)
- rsync 5y agoYes - any account can have snapshots. The discounted ones just don’t have free snapshots. They count against your quota. Full price accounts have 7 days that don’t count against your quota.
- hsbauauvhabzb 5y agoCan we stop it with the thinly veiled advertising?
- picture 5y agoI don't think they're trying to veil anything with the account they're posting from. And this does present a seemingly pretty reasonable "comprehensive, fully closed-loop solution"
- pfortuny 5y agoThere is nothing thin or veiled here, afaics.
- aborsy 5y agoIt’s more or less open advertisement. The user constantly advertises their product on HN. It’s a tough market, and HN might include users or sysadmin types who might be interested in ZFS backups. Whether advertisement violates the site rules, I don’t know.
- stavros 5y agoWell I'm a user of theirs and right now, at this moment, I have the same problem the article describes. John's comment made me aware of the option, which I will set up right away.