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> A billion butts? Do 10M Swedes really average 100 butts chucked into the environment? it's per year. Roughly 10% of swedes smoke to some level. If we say ha

> A billion butts? Do 10M Swedes really average 100 butts chucked into the environment? it's per year. Roughly 10% of swedes smoke to some level. If we say half of them are only occasional smokers and the other half smoke on average 10/day, that's 1.8B/year

ginko 5y ago
But surely Swedish smokers don't chuck 55% of their butts into the environment.
- grenoire 5y ago
  You'd be surprised, have you ever been to Paris? Swede smokers are barely any different.
  - lillecarl 5y ago
    There are cultural differences, I put my smokes out and bin them, most people I know do too. Bin density is great in Sweden too, which definitely has an effect on how many butts are put into the environment.
    - null_object 5y ago
      > There are cultural differences, I put my smokes out and bin them There always has to be a Swede saying stuff like this. Living in Stockholm I see THOUSANDS of cigarette butts lying around on the ground, all the time. Reminds me of when I was walking a local street behind some Swedes and an Englishman (some sort of business group) and the English guy stepped in some dogshit and all the Swedes were like "Oh you're so unlucky because EVERYONE in Sweden picks up their dog-dirt" To my eternal shame I didn't say anything. This street me and the kids call Bajslagsgatan (street is really called Roslagsgatan) - the approximate translation for our nickname would be DogShit Street.
      - lillecarl 5y ago
        > There always has to be a Swede saying stuff like this. That's quite racist, but since I said there are cultural differences between different places I guess so am I? There aren't many countries with as much socialism as Sweden and since it doesn't work without everyone doing their part we're proud to do it, it doesn't mean we're perfect but we try. I know no-one who wouldn't say throwing shit on the ground is bad. > Living in Stockholm I see THOUSANDS of cigarette butts lying around on the ground, all the time. My 1.2, 1.4 eyes must be broken then because I don't have the same experience. Outside of nightclubs and bars, yes. Near central hubs where people are in a hurry, yes. On average, no. > Reminds me of when I was walking a local street behind some Swedes and an Englishman (some sort of business group) and the English guy stepped in some dogshit and all the Swedes were like "Oh you're so unlucky because EVERYONE in Sweden picks up their dog-dirt" That'd be because most people do, "EVERYONE" should "NEVER" be interpreted as literally everyone, there are always people who deviate from the norm. > To my eternal shame I didn't say anything. This street me and the kids call Bajslagsgatan (street is really called Roslagsgatan) - the approximate translation for our nickname would be DogShit Street. You're telling me that on a street in the middle of Stockholm where there are no trees and the buildings are around 6 stories high people just let their dogs shit on the pavement and walk off? I call major bullshit. If you'd have said Vanadislunden which is nearby and has a dog-park, I'd believe you. EDIT: Apparently there are a few trees at the end of the street crossing over to Birger Jarlsgatan (Next to Norra Real), I guess every urban dogowner let their dogs shit there.
- ecdouvhr 5y ago
  If they're anything like Finns, they probably do. Why get the ashtray in the car dirty when you can just throw it out the window?
  - lillecarl 5y ago
    The common Swede doesn't smoke in their car, they don't even have ashtrays anymore. We stop at a car-stop and smoke, then continue driving. I was suprised when backpacking Australia how "everyone" smoked in their car.
- scbrg 5y ago
  That doesn't sound unlikely. I'd guess that most smoking occurs outdoors. Smoking is pretty much banned indoors except for in people's residences. Many smokers avoid smoking in their own homes due to the damage it does to walls and furniture. Ashtrays are uncommon outside.
- NoboruWataya 5y ago
  I can't speak for Sweden, and I don't know why it happens anywhere, but a lot of smokers do inexplicably fail to see their throwing cigarette butts on the ground as littering. I know people who are not, generally speaking, assholes, and would never otherwise litter, but think nothing of doing this.
- hydrok9 5y ago
  is there anywhere in the world where smokers don't behave like this? It's certainly the case in Canada
- tamaharbor 5y ago
  For some reason, smokers seem to think that the world is their ashtray.

ginko 5y ago

But surely Swedish smokers don't chuck 55% of their butts into the environment.

grenoire 5y ago
You'd be surprised, have you ever been to Paris? Swede smokers are barely any different.
- lillecarl 5y ago
  There are cultural differences, I put my smokes out and bin them, most people I know do too. Bin density is great in Sweden too, which definitely has an effect on how many butts are put into the environment.
  - null_object 5y ago
    > There are cultural differences, I put my smokes out and bin them There always has to be a Swede saying stuff like this. Living in Stockholm I see THOUSANDS of cigarette butts lying around on the ground, all the time. Reminds me of when I was walking a local street behind some Swedes and an Englishman (some sort of business group) and the English guy stepped in some dogshit and all the Swedes were like "Oh you're so unlucky because EVERYONE in Sweden picks up their dog-dirt" To my eternal shame I didn't say anything. This street me and the kids call Bajslagsgatan (street is really called Roslagsgatan) - the approximate translation for our nickname would be DogShit Street.
    - lillecarl 5y ago
      > There always has to be a Swede saying stuff like this. That's quite racist, but since I said there are cultural differences between different places I guess so am I? There aren't many countries with as much socialism as Sweden and since it doesn't work without everyone doing their part we're proud to do it, it doesn't mean we're perfect but we try. I know no-one who wouldn't say throwing shit on the ground is bad. > Living in Stockholm I see THOUSANDS of cigarette butts lying around on the ground, all the time. My 1.2, 1.4 eyes must be broken then because I don't have the same experience. Outside of nightclubs and bars, yes. Near central hubs where people are in a hurry, yes. On average, no. > Reminds me of when I was walking a local street behind some Swedes and an Englishman (some sort of business group) and the English guy stepped in some dogshit and all the Swedes were like "Oh you're so unlucky because EVERYONE in Sweden picks up their dog-dirt" That'd be because most people do, "EVERYONE" should "NEVER" be interpreted as literally everyone, there are always people who deviate from the norm. > To my eternal shame I didn't say anything. This street me and the kids call Bajslagsgatan (street is really called Roslagsgatan) - the approximate translation for our nickname would be DogShit Street. You're telling me that on a street in the middle of Stockholm where there are no trees and the buildings are around 6 stories high people just let their dogs shit on the pavement and walk off? I call major bullshit. If you'd have said Vanadislunden which is nearby and has a dog-park, I'd believe you. EDIT: Apparently there are a few trees at the end of the street crossing over to Birger Jarlsgatan (Next to Norra Real), I guess every urban dogowner let their dogs shit there.
ecdouvhr 5y ago
If they're anything like Finns, they probably do. Why get the ashtray in the car dirty when you can just throw it out the window?
- lillecarl 5y ago
  The common Swede doesn't smoke in their car, they don't even have ashtrays anymore. We stop at a car-stop and smoke, then continue driving. I was suprised when backpacking Australia how "everyone" smoked in their car.
scbrg 5y ago
That doesn't sound unlikely. I'd guess that most smoking occurs outdoors. Smoking is pretty much banned indoors except for in people's residences. Many smokers avoid smoking in their own homes due to the damage it does to walls and furniture. Ashtrays are uncommon outside.
NoboruWataya 5y ago
I can't speak for Sweden, and I don't know why it happens anywhere, but a lot of smokers do inexplicably fail to see their throwing cigarette butts on the ground as littering. I know people who are not, generally speaking, assholes, and would never otherwise litter, but think nothing of doing this.
hydrok9 5y ago
is there anywhere in the world where smokers don't behave like this? It's certainly the case in Canada
tamaharbor 5y ago
For some reason, smokers seem to think that the world is their ashtray.