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>Why not just have an Only Fans, weekly photo video sets, and a decent copywriter and make 10x as much money? Why go through all this work? I mean, I cant help

>Why not just have an Only Fans, weekly photo video sets, and a decent copywriter and make 10x as much money? Why go through all this work? I mean, I cant help but agree that you're being a little dishonest here. Without passing judgement on whether what you're doing is right or wrong, a quick glance through the Twitter link in the OP and its quite obvious that you are well endowed and using it to your advantage by wearing revealing clothing. Can we acknowledge that some probably significant proportion of your channel views are at least initially due to your physique and the way you happily show it off?

ghosty141 5y ago
>its quite obvious that you are well endowed and using it to your advantage by wearing revealing clothing What is "revealing clothing" to you. We are not in the 1900s where it's a crime to show a little ankle. Her clothing is nothing out of the ordinary in many videos. If you have big boobs people will notice no matter what you wear, youtube shouldn't act different based on your body... If another youtube would exist who has very small "assets" I can assure you nothing would've happened.
- twofornone 5y ago
  It's so weird that this is the default response. Again, I'm not making a moral judgement. But the first three tweets in the linked thread: 1. Bare midriff and tiny shorts 2. Deliberately fully exposed cleavage 3. A tiny spaghetti strap Wear whatever you want, but don't be surprised when you get sexual attention, and don't pretend that as a public figure who makes money off of eyeballs that you're not deliberately taking advantage of your assets. It's like we're not allowed to acknowledge that people dress for attention without being accused of puritanism or shaming. And while we're on the subject, it is disingenuous to ignore the fact that the female figure induces a instinctual physiological and psychological responses in men. Social norms around modest dress may exist for a reason beyond oppression or patriarchy or what have you. It's tens of millions of years of evolution - not quite fair to pretend that revealing clothing does not force an onus onto men to suppress visceral urges.
  - theshrike79 5y ago
    There was a video, by her, explaining this years ago. The standard for "sexy" is completely different in China vs USA. Extremely skimpy clothing isn't culturally "sexy" or frowned upon in Chinese culture as it is in USA.
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  - anonAndOn 5y ago
    >the female figure induces a instinctual physiological and psychological responses in men Yikes. That's some incestuous ideology. Thankfully, there are many men who do not suffer from such instincts.
  - dr_dshiv 5y ago
    Yeah, but what about the music video and commercial advertising argument? E g., That sexiness is commonly used in western society? Why single her out? Also, if it were about the "onus", where does it stop? I'm regularly attracted to women and OBVIOUSLY I have to suppress my visceral urges. Do you want women to wear a burkha?
  - iamtedd 5y ago
    As a gay man, I most certainly do not! Please stop making such pseudo-intellectual sweeping statements.
  - nottorp 5y ago
    > Wear whatever you want, but don't be surprised when you get sexual attention (Lack of) Self control much?
  - rbanffy 5y ago
    > the female figure induces a instinctual physiological and psychological responses in men. No. We are not all that shallow. In order to cause such a reaction there has to be some context, some hint of availability. I like her. I enjoy her videos. I'd like to have a coffee or beer with her. I'd love to be her friend. I'd like to ask her a ton of questions (political, technical, social), but I am not sexually attracted to her. Even if I were, I know I'm not what she likes and that she's not single. > force an onus onto men to suppress visceral urges. The universe has no obligation to make it easy for a person not to behave like an animal. That's what the sizeable lump of tissue inside your head is for. It's not a space heater.
SexyCyborg 5y ago
>its quite obvious that you are well endowed and using it to your advantage Yes, I play the cards I've been dealt. >by wearing revealing clothing. No, the clothing and gender expression predates YouTube and is for other reasons, is usually more conservative when I'm filming for YouTube, and is for myself. I've never worn anything for my audience. >Can we acknowledge that some probably significant proportion of your channel views are at least initially due to your physique Yes, I’ve come to take pride in it "came for the tits, stayed for the tech". If I happen to look the way I do for reasons other than marketing, being able to encourage technical proficiency in a demographic that was not looking to learn anything is about as good an outcome as I could hope for. >and the way you happily show it off? Sort of. I look the way I do for myself, and I don't object to any one else's polite enjoyment of that. As a gay woman I've gone from conflicted to entertained and accepting of it- as might any straight man who found themselves on the receiving end of the support of a large number of gay men, just for being himself and looking how he likes to look. But like our hypothetical straight creator- benefiting from something, it not the same as catering to it.
- post_from_work 5y ago
  - SexyCyborg 5y ago
    >That statement seems incongruent with getting breast implants/plastic surgery... Yes, it does seem that way. That's on me until I'm willing to offer a more complete explanation.
    - phnofive 5y ago
      We all play the cards we're dealt, but it can't hurt to try for some extra luck.
    - alexisread 5y ago
      I'm not 100% sure on this, but when I visited China (and my brother has said similar with Taiwan), the concept of old/existing was blurry - as an example a temple that has been completely reconstructed and doesn't include any of the original material, is still 2000 years old. I think Terry Pratchett has a similar passage in The Fifth Elephant - this axe, over time may need a replacement head, or the handle may need some work, but it will always be the same axe that my father gave to me [paraphrased]. I guess, applied here, it's a similar thing to knowing you are male in a female body for instance. Morphology of the avatar in your head can be different to your external appearance, ie. you always had large boobs?
artdigital 5y ago
The amount of downvotes you got for this comment is IMO a part of the issue and undeserved. Gender and sex aren't taboo topics, and pointing out that someone might or might not use their attractiveness to their advantage is part of the discussion and totally reasonable to do, without having to start with "what is sexist", "what is male oppression", "what is sexual discrimination against woman" etc. We're all driven by instinct, and sex is part of that. If someone is presented attractive, they will (usually) get more views, which is also why attractive people are used as models She herself commented in a different reply and agreed to some of the points, yet this comment is getting downvoted to hell (Disclaimer that I don't know Naomi Wu and have never seen a video of hers. I'm replying based on the context of the OP link and reading through replies)
- Taurenking 5y ago
alpaca128 5y ago
> its quite obvious that you are well endowed and using it to your advantage And what exactly is the issue with that? Every model in advertising & on Instagram, every actress, and many more do the same. And so far I haven't seen a reason why that's supposed to be bad, aside from religious fundamentalist nutcases.

ghosty141 5y ago

>its quite obvious that you are well endowed and using it to your advantage by wearing revealing clothing What is "revealing clothing" to you. We are not in the 1900s where it's a crime to show a little ankle. Her clothing is nothing out of the ordinary in many videos. If you have big boobs people will notice no matter what you wear, youtube shouldn't act different based on your body... If another youtube would exist who has very small "assets" I can assure you nothing would've happened.

twofornone 5y ago
It's so weird that this is the default response. Again, I'm not making a moral judgement. But the first three tweets in the linked thread: 1. Bare midriff and tiny shorts 2. Deliberately fully exposed cleavage 3. A tiny spaghetti strap Wear whatever you want, but don't be surprised when you get sexual attention, and don't pretend that as a public figure who makes money off of eyeballs that you're not deliberately taking advantage of your assets. It's like we're not allowed to acknowledge that people dress for attention without being accused of puritanism or shaming. And while we're on the subject, it is disingenuous to ignore the fact that the female figure induces a instinctual physiological and psychological responses in men. Social norms around modest dress may exist for a reason beyond oppression or patriarchy or what have you. It's tens of millions of years of evolution - not quite fair to pretend that revealing clothing does not force an onus onto men to suppress visceral urges.
- theshrike79 5y ago
  There was a video, by her, explaining this years ago. The standard for "sexy" is completely different in China vs USA. Extremely skimpy clothing isn't culturally "sexy" or frowned upon in Chinese culture as it is in USA.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
- anonAndOn 5y ago
  >the female figure induces a instinctual physiological and psychological responses in men Yikes. That's some incestuous ideology. Thankfully, there are many men who do not suffer from such instincts.
- dr_dshiv 5y ago
  Yeah, but what about the music video and commercial advertising argument? E g., That sexiness is commonly used in western society? Why single her out? Also, if it were about the "onus", where does it stop? I'm regularly attracted to women and OBVIOUSLY I have to suppress my visceral urges. Do you want women to wear a burkha?
- iamtedd 5y ago
  As a gay man, I most certainly do not! Please stop making such pseudo-intellectual sweeping statements.
- nottorp 5y ago
  > Wear whatever you want, but don't be surprised when you get sexual attention (Lack of) Self control much?
- rbanffy 5y ago
  > the female figure induces a instinctual physiological and psychological responses in men. No. We are not all that shallow. In order to cause such a reaction there has to be some context, some hint of availability. I like her. I enjoy her videos. I'd like to have a coffee or beer with her. I'd love to be her friend. I'd like to ask her a ton of questions (political, technical, social), but I am not sexually attracted to her. Even if I were, I know I'm not what she likes and that she's not single. > force an onus onto men to suppress visceral urges. The universe has no obligation to make it easy for a person not to behave like an animal. That's what the sizeable lump of tissue inside your head is for. It's not a space heater.

SexyCyborg 5y ago

>its quite obvious that you are well endowed and using it to your advantage Yes, I play the cards I've been dealt. >by wearing revealing clothing. No, the clothing and gender expression predates YouTube and is for other reasons, is usually more conservative when I'm filming for YouTube, and is for myself. I've never worn anything for my audience. >Can we acknowledge that some probably significant proportion of your channel views are at least initially due to your physique Yes, I’ve come to take pride in it "came for the tits, stayed for the tech". If I happen to look the way I do for reasons other than marketing, being able to encourage technical proficiency in a demographic that was not looking to learn anything is about as good an outcome as I could hope for. >and the way you happily show it off? Sort of. I look the way I do for myself, and I don't object to any one else's polite enjoyment of that. As a gay woman I've gone from conflicted to entertained and accepting of it- as might any straight man who found themselves on the receiving end of the support of a large number of gay men, just for being himself and looking how he likes to look. But like our hypothetical straight creator- benefiting from something, it not the same as catering to it.

post_from_work 5y ago
- SexyCyborg 5y ago
  >That statement seems incongruent with getting breast implants/plastic surgery... Yes, it does seem that way. That's on me until I'm willing to offer a more complete explanation.
  - phnofive 5y ago
    We all play the cards we're dealt, but it can't hurt to try for some extra luck.
  - alexisread 5y ago
    I'm not 100% sure on this, but when I visited China (and my brother has said similar with Taiwan), the concept of old/existing was blurry - as an example a temple that has been completely reconstructed and doesn't include any of the original material, is still 2000 years old. I think Terry Pratchett has a similar passage in The Fifth Elephant - this axe, over time may need a replacement head, or the handle may need some work, but it will always be the same axe that my father gave to me [paraphrased]. I guess, applied here, it's a similar thing to knowing you are male in a female body for instance. Morphology of the avatar in your head can be different to your external appearance, ie. you always had large boobs?

artdigital 5y ago

The amount of downvotes you got for this comment is IMO a part of the issue and undeserved. Gender and sex aren't taboo topics, and pointing out that someone might or might not use their attractiveness to their advantage is part of the discussion and totally reasonable to do, without having to start with "what is sexist", "what is male oppression", "what is sexual discrimination against woman" etc. We're all driven by instinct, and sex is part of that. If someone is presented attractive, they will (usually) get more views, which is also why attractive people are used as models She herself commented in a different reply and agreed to some of the points, yet this comment is getting downvoted to hell (Disclaimer that I don't know Naomi Wu and have never seen a video of hers. I'm replying based on the context of the OP link and reading through replies)

Taurenking 5y ago

alpaca128 5y ago

> its quite obvious that you are well endowed and using it to your advantage And what exactly is the issue with that? Every model in advertising & on Instagram, every actress, and many more do the same. And so far I haven't seen a reason why that's supposed to be bad, aside from religious fundamentalist nutcases.