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"She pretends to be some women's rights activist" I'm a mainland Chinese citizen with a high profile on Western Social Media, I can assure you I work very hard

"She pretends to be some women's rights activist" I'm a mainland Chinese citizen with a high profile on Western Social Media, I can assure you I work very hard to make sure no one confuses me as a women's rights activist. Particularly not these days. "Yes the algorithm is capricious," Not the algorithm- all human moderation. "she's really just a purveyor of some weird type of titillation" Why not just have an Only Fans, weekly photo video sets, and a decent copywriter and make 10x as much money? Why go through all this work? "she's clearly making a bust of herself naked." It's a dressmakers dummy, for sewing. It's a tool, it's not even decorative. It's of me because the clothes are for me. You can't make it with clothes on it or it won't work, I decimated the mesh instead. Men have been 3D printing far higher resolution models of nude female torsos without complaint from YouTube for a decade.

fjhfhgf 5y ago
Upvoted you and oceanghost just so you dont have to reply the same idiocy over and over if they are buried in downvotes
spacexsucks 5y ago
I am a huge fan. Keep being you. And you are brave.
fifteenforty 5y ago
If YouTube put as much effort into addressing the pandemic of health misinformation as they do into making your life difficult, the world would be a better place. Thank you for spreading such good information on masks.
twofornone 5y ago
>Why not just have an Only Fans, weekly photo video sets, and a decent copywriter and make 10x as much money? Why go through all this work? I mean, I cant help but agree that you're being a little dishonest here. Without passing judgement on whether what you're doing is right or wrong, a quick glance through the Twitter link in the OP and its quite obvious that you are well endowed and using it to your advantage by wearing revealing clothing. Can we acknowledge that some probably significant proportion of your channel views are at least initially due to your physique and the way you happily show it off?
- ghosty141 5y ago
  >its quite obvious that you are well endowed and using it to your advantage by wearing revealing clothing What is "revealing clothing" to you. We are not in the 1900s where it's a crime to show a little ankle. Her clothing is nothing out of the ordinary in many videos. If you have big boobs people will notice no matter what you wear, youtube shouldn't act different based on your body... If another youtube would exist who has very small "assets" I can assure you nothing would've happened.
  - twofornone 5y ago
    It's so weird that this is the default response. Again, I'm not making a moral judgement. But the first three tweets in the linked thread: 1. Bare midriff and tiny shorts 2. Deliberately fully exposed cleavage 3. A tiny spaghetti strap Wear whatever you want, but don't be surprised when you get sexual attention, and don't pretend that as a public figure who makes money off of eyeballs that you're not deliberately taking advantage of your assets. It's like we're not allowed to acknowledge that people dress for attention without being accused of puritanism or shaming. And while we're on the subject, it is disingenuous to ignore the fact that the female figure induces a instinctual physiological and psychological responses in men. Social norms around modest dress may exist for a reason beyond oppression or patriarchy or what have you. It's tens of millions of years of evolution - not quite fair to pretend that revealing clothing does not force an onus onto men to suppress visceral urges.
    - theshrike79 5y ago
      There was a video, by her, explaining this years ago. The standard for "sexy" is completely different in China vs USA. Extremely skimpy clothing isn't culturally "sexy" or frowned upon in Chinese culture as it is in USA.
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    - anonAndOn 5y ago
somerando7 5y ago
1 question: how do you know their videos aren't demonetized? Also, in my understanding, youtube only demonetizes PER VIDEO, not your whole account unless you do something serious, is that right?
- SexyCyborg 5y ago
  >how do you know their videos aren't demonetized? “No, there won't be an answer as to why men making nude female torsos will not be subject to the same enforcement and never have been.” I pressed YouTube on are or would those videos with identical content be treated identically, over several emails- they refuse to answer. That model is an extremely common test print in the community and I’ve never heard of anyone being demonetized for it. I’m hardly going to test it by reporting them and I’m also worried that people may now go and report or otherwise brigade those videos- many of whom are incredibly supportive friends in the community so I don’t want to over emphasize this and have them somehow blamed for doing nothing wrong. >Also, in my understanding, youtube only demonetizes PER VIDEO, not your whole account unless you do something serious, is that right? That is correct, although in my case it has been becoming more common every month and more ridiculous each time. None of the adult content rulings have fallen within their own definition.
  - hd4 5y ago
    Hold on, this is important. You're claiming gender-based discrimination but you don't actually know for sure if you're being treated differently from the male content creators.
    - pseudalopex 5y ago
      She said many of them are friends. The strongest plausible interpretation is she asked them.
robinduckett 5y ago
> mainland Chinese citizen Which is a hugely touchy subject around here on its own, for some reason
- throwaway4good 5y ago
  - throwaway4good 5y ago
    And I am only slightly joking. YouTube is chuck-full of soft porn, so that is obviously not the problem here. Moderation and demonetarization of this sort is done by an (anonymous) human not by an algorithm. So why is mrs. Sexy controversial? Look at her twitter-profile and see where she is getting the most flak ...
    - throwaway4good 5y ago
      You can see an example of what I am referring to here: https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/1483974791132762112 https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/148397479113276211... Believe me, saying something like that is far more controversial, and will generate far more hate, than showing off some artificial boobies in a tech video.
  - pjc50 5y ago
    Fairly sure she's already reported being visited by the police over the contents of her Twitter and youtube. In addition to being "outed". While you're suggesting that she do things that will result in her being silenced, for your own laughs.
    - throwaway4good 5y ago
      I realize the for-all-over-an-empty-set joke may be lost on some ...
- Freak_NL 5y ago
  From what I understand it is as often a problem with translation as it a clear political standpoint. What makes the phrase 'mainland China' problematic in English, is that it can mean a number of things. Someone from China using it may do so because: * They were taught to do so and simply understand it to mean 'someone from the People's Republic of China'. No political subtext intended. * They use it to mean that they are from the literal mainland of the People's Republic of China, but not Hong Kong or Macau. * They use it because they genuinely see Taiwan as 'that other part of China' that needs to be unified with the People's Republic of China, despite having been a sovereign democracy for over 70 years. When you say "I am from China" (or "I am from the PRC"), there is no chance of this having any deeper political meaning. When you say "I am from mainland China", there is a good chance that you do see Taiwan as a 'rogue province' and may support its 'inevitable' reunification by any means, including force. That latter sense is the one that is highly political and irks many people. Note: there is no need to get into the justness or wrongness of Chinese reunification here; it would be off-topic and not likely to be fruitful. I do think it is important that people understand that the phrase 'mainland China' is not bereft of connotations and may cause readers to form an opinion of the person using it that may not be in line with that person's actual intent.
ialyos 5y ago
I don't have a nuanced thought to add. I think it sucks these videos were demonetized and I agree there's something weird going on when 3d bust test prints abound. Sorry you have to fit so hard to get people on the same page
black_puppydog 5y ago
I'm happy to see you here, and kind of shocked how the discussion seems to flow past your comments, going back and forth within the HN crowd instead of engaging with literally the creator who's livelihood is being discussed here. For any random project that gets posted on HN, "hey, author here..." posts will typically end up at the top of the page, let's hope we also manage for this one here. I had honestly not ever thought about your financials, simply assuming that with such a prolific youtube chain you would be fine. Your first twitter thread about this a few days ago made me reconsider, and given that youtube are being so arrogant about this I just signed up for a small $5 subscription on your tipeee. @everyone: if your stance is "just ditch youtube" then this is your chance to make it possible: https://en.tipeee.com/naomiwu/ https://en.tipeee.com/naomiwu/ Edit: wow, just read through the rest of the thread. Actually a lot of back and forth going on. I stand corrected. :)
- SexyCyborg 5y ago
  That's very kind of you. No Patreon and Western sponsors are understandably reluctant to work with a Chinese national- even those that are ok with my appearance. Chinese businesses can't figure out how I am still online, most don't want to risk the association but a few do and sponsor just enough to keep the lights on. It's tight some months though.
  - 3np 5y ago
    Would you be up for receiving cryptocurrency, either as sponsoring (like your tipeee site) or just as donations? EDIT: See now that you already accept the main ones <3 Pro tip for when you have the time: Generate a new BTC address (native segwit bech32; starts with "bc1" instead of "1"). It will lower fees significantly, which can be a difference between a smaller donation being meaningful or not when fees are higher)
    - kragen 5y ago
      All her recent YouTube videos have cryptocurrency donation addresses for BTC, BCH, LTC, ETH, and XMR (Monero).
timwaagh 5y ago
You're not wrong. You are being discriminated against. I mean you have so many things that 'family friendly' reactionaries would object to: Chinese, LGBTQ, cup size, making naked torso. I guess they all count. If it was only one you'd probably be fine. It's not a surprise. For what it's worth I do not support such discrimination and in a better world this wouldn't happen.

fjhfhgf 5y ago

Upvoted you and oceanghost just so you dont have to reply the same idiocy over and over if they are buried in downvotes

spacexsucks 5y ago

I am a huge fan. Keep being you. And you are brave.

fifteenforty 5y ago

If YouTube put as much effort into addressing the pandemic of health misinformation as they do into making your life difficult, the world would be a better place. Thank you for spreading such good information on masks.

twofornone 5y ago

>Why not just have an Only Fans, weekly photo video sets, and a decent copywriter and make 10x as much money? Why go through all this work? I mean, I cant help but agree that you're being a little dishonest here. Without passing judgement on whether what you're doing is right or wrong, a quick glance through the Twitter link in the OP and its quite obvious that you are well endowed and using it to your advantage by wearing revealing clothing. Can we acknowledge that some probably significant proportion of your channel views are at least initially due to your physique and the way you happily show it off?

ghosty141 5y ago
>its quite obvious that you are well endowed and using it to your advantage by wearing revealing clothing What is "revealing clothing" to you. We are not in the 1900s where it's a crime to show a little ankle. Her clothing is nothing out of the ordinary in many videos. If you have big boobs people will notice no matter what you wear, youtube shouldn't act different based on your body... If another youtube would exist who has very small "assets" I can assure you nothing would've happened.
- twofornone 5y ago
  It's so weird that this is the default response. Again, I'm not making a moral judgement. But the first three tweets in the linked thread: 1. Bare midriff and tiny shorts 2. Deliberately fully exposed cleavage 3. A tiny spaghetti strap Wear whatever you want, but don't be surprised when you get sexual attention, and don't pretend that as a public figure who makes money off of eyeballs that you're not deliberately taking advantage of your assets. It's like we're not allowed to acknowledge that people dress for attention without being accused of puritanism or shaming. And while we're on the subject, it is disingenuous to ignore the fact that the female figure induces a instinctual physiological and psychological responses in men. Social norms around modest dress may exist for a reason beyond oppression or patriarchy or what have you. It's tens of millions of years of evolution - not quite fair to pretend that revealing clothing does not force an onus onto men to suppress visceral urges.
  - theshrike79 5y ago
    There was a video, by her, explaining this years ago. The standard for "sexy" is completely different in China vs USA. Extremely skimpy clothing isn't culturally "sexy" or frowned upon in Chinese culture as it is in USA.
    - deleted 5y ago
      [deleted]
  - anonAndOn 5y ago

somerando7 5y ago

1 question: how do you know their videos aren't demonetized? Also, in my understanding, youtube only demonetizes PER VIDEO, not your whole account unless you do something serious, is that right?

SexyCyborg 5y ago
>how do you know their videos aren't demonetized? “No, there won't be an answer as to why men making nude female torsos will not be subject to the same enforcement and never have been.” I pressed YouTube on are or would those videos with identical content be treated identically, over several emails- they refuse to answer. That model is an extremely common test print in the community and I’ve never heard of anyone being demonetized for it. I’m hardly going to test it by reporting them and I’m also worried that people may now go and report or otherwise brigade those videos- many of whom are incredibly supportive friends in the community so I don’t want to over emphasize this and have them somehow blamed for doing nothing wrong. >Also, in my understanding, youtube only demonetizes PER VIDEO, not your whole account unless you do something serious, is that right? That is correct, although in my case it has been becoming more common every month and more ridiculous each time. None of the adult content rulings have fallen within their own definition.
- hd4 5y ago
  Hold on, this is important. You're claiming gender-based discrimination but you don't actually know for sure if you're being treated differently from the male content creators.
  - pseudalopex 5y ago
    She said many of them are friends. The strongest plausible interpretation is she asked them.

robinduckett 5y ago

> mainland Chinese citizen Which is a hugely touchy subject around here on its own, for some reason

throwaway4good 5y ago
- throwaway4good 5y ago
  And I am only slightly joking. YouTube is chuck-full of soft porn, so that is obviously not the problem here. Moderation and demonetarization of this sort is done by an (anonymous) human not by an algorithm. So why is mrs. Sexy controversial? Look at her twitter-profile and see where she is getting the most flak ...
  - throwaway4good 5y ago
    You can see an example of what I am referring to here: https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/1483974791132762112 https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/148397479113276211... Believe me, saying something like that is far more controversial, and will generate far more hate, than showing off some artificial boobies in a tech video.
- pjc50 5y ago
  Fairly sure she's already reported being visited by the police over the contents of her Twitter and youtube. In addition to being "outed". While you're suggesting that she do things that will result in her being silenced, for your own laughs.
  - throwaway4good 5y ago
    I realize the for-all-over-an-empty-set joke may be lost on some ...
Freak_NL 5y ago
From what I understand it is as often a problem with translation as it a clear political standpoint. What makes the phrase 'mainland China' problematic in English, is that it can mean a number of things. Someone from China using it may do so because: * They were taught to do so and simply understand it to mean 'someone from the People's Republic of China'. No political subtext intended. * They use it to mean that they are from the literal mainland of the People's Republic of China, but not Hong Kong or Macau. * They use it because they genuinely see Taiwan as 'that other part of China' that needs to be unified with the People's Republic of China, despite having been a sovereign democracy for over 70 years. When you say "I am from China" (or "I am from the PRC"), there is no chance of this having any deeper political meaning. When you say "I am from mainland China", there is a good chance that you do see Taiwan as a 'rogue province' and may support its 'inevitable' reunification by any means, including force. That latter sense is the one that is highly political and irks many people. Note: there is no need to get into the justness or wrongness of Chinese reunification here; it would be off-topic and not likely to be fruitful. I do think it is important that people understand that the phrase 'mainland China' is not bereft of connotations and may cause readers to form an opinion of the person using it that may not be in line with that person's actual intent.

ialyos 5y ago

I don't have a nuanced thought to add. I think it sucks these videos were demonetized and I agree there's something weird going on when 3d bust test prints abound. Sorry you have to fit so hard to get people on the same page

black_puppydog 5y ago

I'm happy to see you here, and kind of shocked how the discussion seems to flow past your comments, going back and forth within the HN crowd instead of engaging with literally the creator who's livelihood is being discussed here. For any random project that gets posted on HN, "hey, author here..." posts will typically end up at the top of the page, let's hope we also manage for this one here. I had honestly not ever thought about your financials, simply assuming that with such a prolific youtube chain you would be fine. Your first twitter thread about this a few days ago made me reconsider, and given that youtube are being so arrogant about this I just signed up for a small $5 subscription on your tipeee. @everyone: if your stance is "just ditch youtube" then this is your chance to make it possible: https://en.tipeee.com/naomiwu/ https://en.tipeee.com/naomiwu/ Edit: wow, just read through the rest of the thread. Actually a lot of back and forth going on. I stand corrected. :)

SexyCyborg 5y ago
That's very kind of you. No Patreon and Western sponsors are understandably reluctant to work with a Chinese national- even those that are ok with my appearance. Chinese businesses can't figure out how I am still online, most don't want to risk the association but a few do and sponsor just enough to keep the lights on. It's tight some months though.
- 3np 5y ago
  Would you be up for receiving cryptocurrency, either as sponsoring (like your tipeee site) or just as donations? EDIT: See now that you already accept the main ones <3 Pro tip for when you have the time: Generate a new BTC address (native segwit bech32; starts with "bc1" instead of "1"). It will lower fees significantly, which can be a difference between a smaller donation being meaningful or not when fees are higher)
  - kragen 5y ago
    All her recent YouTube videos have cryptocurrency donation addresses for BTC, BCH, LTC, ETH, and XMR (Monero).

timwaagh 5y ago

You're not wrong. You are being discriminated against. I mean you have so many things that 'family friendly' reactionaries would object to: Chinese, LGBTQ, cup size, making naked torso. I guess they all count. If it was only one you'd probably be fine. It's not a surprise. For what it's worth I do not support such discrimination and in a better world this wouldn't happen.