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Yea the old narrative of "arm is power efficient, but doesn't actually run real desktop level stuff at that power level" is pretty dead at this point.. it now r

by xt00 5y ago

Yea the old narrative of "arm is power efficient, but doesn't actually run real desktop level stuff at that power level" is pretty dead at this point.. it now runs desktop level stuff at 3x lower power than intel's latest chips.. and the potential for apple's chips to keep improving at that same power envelope is definitely there.. so...

loeg 5y ago
Yeah, ARM is fine, as long as Mac meets your needs. No other ARM is close, and as a PC hardware platform, it’s still a giant pain compared to x86.
- MBCook 5y ago
  Seems like Graviton may be there, but of course Amazon isn’t going to sell those to anyone.
  - klelatti 5y ago
    No but Graviton is a modified Neoverse which others do sell - eg Ampere
- terafo 5y ago
  If there was a way to put Altra Max into PC, it would rip and tear threadripper apart.
mhh__ 5y ago
The ARM ISA are ARM as implemented by a team with decades of low power chip design expertise is possibly not the same thing. There probably is a quantifiably larger (than for raw performance) perf/watt tax with X86, but on the same process I'm not convinced it's all that huge. Intel were resting on their laurels for way too long. They've risen to the challenge rather than started panic-selling (give up on process), so exciting times are ahead I hope.
baq 5y ago
everybody loves the standard ARM firmware, BIOS and bootloader. right? right...?