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Interestingly enough, there doesn't seem to be any correlation between states like New York and Florida and their polar opposite approaches to mandates. In the
by yucky 5y ago
Interestingly enough, there doesn't seem to be any correlation between states like New York and Florida and their polar opposite approaches to mandates. In the end, the data says it made no difference. Why?
- dekhn 5y agoI await the results, ten years int he future, where we integrate a wide range of data in less ambiguous ways to determine what the actual effects of vaccination, post-infection resistance, masking, etc were, and understand the underlying causes. I do agree that interventions (except for full shutdown like china) don't seem to have a huge variation in results.
- yucky 5y agoWell we already know there has been a huge increase in the deaths of black children [1] [1] https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2022/01/25/child-abuse-report-deaths-black-children-up-pandemic/9209127002/ https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2022/01/25/chi...
- dekhn 5y agoI am only interested in serious results from quantitative medical biology researchers related specifically to viral infection, not secondary causes. Also quotes from the newspaper article already point out some of the effects predate covid and thus couldn't have been caused by it.
- yucky 5y ago>related specifically to viral infection, not secondary causes. You can't separate the two. The governments response to the pandemic needs to be analyzed, and the huge increase in deaths among black children as a direct result of their policies in regards to the virus, and not due to the virus itself, means those deaths were preventable with a less authoritarian response.
- peter422 5y agoFlorida have had way more deaths after vaccinations were widely available. Also don’t compare to NY… New York is such a unique state due to how it was hit so hard right away. Compare Florida and California. Florida has 50% more deaths per capita. That’s a lot!
- throwaway0a5e 5y agoI don't understand how you can say this in good faith. The state by state death rates were and are all over the map. Death rates seem to have far more to do with the prevalence of underlying conditions and some key decisions made regarding vulnerable sub groups early on. In light of this your comment basically boils down to "don't pick a state that has policy I like that's on the high end, pick one on the low end"
- xadhominemx 5y ago
- yonaguska 5y agoSome of the more fringe commentators have been pointing out how the batches of vaccines with higher rates of reported adverse effects are also concentrated in red and purple states. This could be that people are more likely to report adverse reactions in this case, but it is interesting.
- xadhominemx 5y agoRight wing media is completely fixated on VAERS and 99% of non-healthcare workers who do not consume right wing media have never heard of it. So it would stand to reason there is a difference in rate of reporting.
- kansface 5y agoTrump voters (Republicans) are older and less healthy. It could just as well be that demographic has more adverse reactions.