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Can we check internet archive? The database entries could be modified easily Not to entertain the conspiracy, I’ve just done it before so it comes to mind

dang 5y ago
I'm on my phone so can't dig as easily, but you can tell from the item IDs that the Stripe post preceded the Bolt one, and we never change those. Edit: internet archive links are now at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30070287 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30070287.
- gondo 5y ago
  So you change the dates sometimes? :)
  - oefrha 5y ago
    Second chance stories have submission time reset IIRC. It’s a routine thing, nothing nefarious.
    - samwillis 5y ago
      From memory, I think if you go to the user who submitted the posts “submissions” list it will show you the original time rather than the “second chance time”.
      - dang 5y ago
        That's true. Only the front page and the /item page show the second chance time. Edit: also, the timestamp that pops up when you hover over "X days/months/years ago" is always the original submission time, never the second-chance time.
sailingparrot 5y ago
Can't see the timestamp on wayback archive. But over on Twitter the same is true, with Stripe's annoucement coming a few hours before Bolt's: https://twitter.com/stripe/status/986651162760724480 https://twitter.com/stripe/status/986651162760724480 https://twitter.com/bolt/status/986700626364055552 https://twitter.com/bolt/status/986700626364055552 And anyway Stripe's release was announcing the release of the product on that day, it wasn't just a random marketing filler. There is a just no way a company the size of Stripe is going to put something as sensitive as a new fraud detection system in production, on a 1h notice just to steal some views from a competitor's blog post if it's not 100% ready. I don't trust for 1 second that the CEO of a company in the same space can believe that either.
- vmception 5y ago
  ooooh this is fun, time to archive this CEO's post, doesn't seem like it'll last for long
wglb 5y ago
The database entries could be modified easily A strange an unfounded accusation. I collected both of these stories when they came in: * 16869290 2018-04-25 21:25:32 Stripe announcement * 16870692 2018-04-25 21:33:27 Bolt announcement This is immune to any database fiddling. These files are on my own server.
- tentacleuno 5y ago
  Do you archive Hacker News? Could you possibly tell us more about it? I'm genuinely interested.
  - wglb 5y ago
    Check out https://hn.algolia.com/api https://hn.algolia.com/api
    - tentacleuno 5y ago
      I use that site very regularly. Thank you very much!

dang 5y ago

I'm on my phone so can't dig as easily, but you can tell from the item IDs that the Stripe post preceded the Bolt one, and we never change those. Edit: internet archive links are now at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30070287 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30070287.

gondo 5y ago
So you change the dates sometimes? :)
- oefrha 5y ago
  Second chance stories have submission time reset IIRC. It’s a routine thing, nothing nefarious.
  - samwillis 5y ago
    From memory, I think if you go to the user who submitted the posts “submissions” list it will show you the original time rather than the “second chance time”.
    - dang 5y ago
      That's true. Only the front page and the /item page show the second chance time. Edit: also, the timestamp that pops up when you hover over "X days/months/years ago" is always the original submission time, never the second-chance time.

sailingparrot 5y ago

Can't see the timestamp on wayback archive. But over on Twitter the same is true, with Stripe's annoucement coming a few hours before Bolt's: https://twitter.com/stripe/status/986651162760724480 https://twitter.com/stripe/status/986651162760724480 https://twitter.com/bolt/status/986700626364055552 https://twitter.com/bolt/status/986700626364055552 And anyway Stripe's release was announcing the release of the product on that day, it wasn't just a random marketing filler. There is a just no way a company the size of Stripe is going to put something as sensitive as a new fraud detection system in production, on a 1h notice just to steal some views from a competitor's blog post if it's not 100% ready. I don't trust for 1 second that the CEO of a company in the same space can believe that either.

vmception 5y ago
ooooh this is fun, time to archive this CEO's post, doesn't seem like it'll last for long

wglb 5y ago

The database entries could be modified easily A strange an unfounded accusation. I collected both of these stories when they came in: * 16869290 2018-04-25 21:25:32 Stripe announcement * 16870692 2018-04-25 21:33:27 Bolt announcement This is immune to any database fiddling. These files are on my own server.

tentacleuno 5y ago
Do you archive Hacker News? Could you possibly tell us more about it? I'm genuinely interested.
- wglb 5y ago
  Check out https://hn.algolia.com/api https://hn.algolia.com/api
  - tentacleuno 5y ago
    I use that site very regularly. Thank you very much!