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Popular thought I often hear users wondering: Are these actually white supremacists or are these FEDs?

rbanffy 5y ago
I remember the FBI noted, a couple years back, that white supremacists have successfully infiltrated law-enforcement organizations. I wouldn't expect the FBI to be imune to infiltration.
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  People that crave authority are often drawn to jobs like this, age old problem. Yet I firmly believe that intelligence agencies are more and more abused for political play and that this trend has increased.
  - rbanffy 5y ago
    The most important requisite for working in a position of power should be not wanting to work in a position of power.
    - aasasd 5y ago
      In the SU and now Russia, we got plenty of people who don't want to work, while being in positions of power.
  - fundad 5y ago
    White supremacists are the most protected gangs from prosecution. police will scour Facebook for photos of thumbs up that they can mistake as a gang sign. Meanwhile people fly confederate flags from their trucks with no fear.
thrower123 5y ago
The supposed kidnapping plot against the governor of Michigan is illustrative. Three-quarters of the conspirators in that case were actual undercover federal agents or paid informants.
- rileymat2 5y ago
  https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/24/us/whitmer-kidnapping-trial.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/24/us/whitmer-kidnapping-tri... “ Of the dozen men on that nighttime surveillance mission, four of them including “Big Dan” were either government informants or undercover F.B.I. agents, according to court documents.” ——— Do you have a source for three quarters?
  - fundad 5y ago
    it’s not surprising law enforcement was involved It was a message to Governors to not take public health seriously and of course it involved law enforcement officers, many who won’t mask or vaccinate.
  - nkurz 5y ago
    I'm not sure of the percentages, but that same article includes this quote: "He was not alone. The F.B.I. deployed at least 12 informants, as well as several undercover agents, according to defense filings." It depends on who one is counting as a conspirator, and 3/4 may well be an overstatement, but it seems true that a surprising number of the people involved were employed by the FBI in some capacity.

I remember the FBI noted, a couple years back, that white supremacists have successfully infiltrated law-enforcement organizations. I wouldn't expect the FBI to be imune to infiltration.

raxxorrax 5y ago
People that crave authority are often drawn to jobs like this, age old problem. Yet I firmly believe that intelligence agencies are more and more abused for political play and that this trend has increased.
- rbanffy 5y ago
  The most important requisite for working in a position of power should be not wanting to work in a position of power.
  - aasasd 5y ago
    In the SU and now Russia, we got plenty of people who don't want to work, while being in positions of power.
- fundad 5y ago
  White supremacists are the most protected gangs from prosecution. police will scour Facebook for photos of thumbs up that they can mistake as a gang sign. Meanwhile people fly confederate flags from their trucks with no fear.

thrower123 5y ago

The supposed kidnapping plot against the governor of Michigan is illustrative. Three-quarters of the conspirators in that case were actual undercover federal agents or paid informants.

rileymat2 5y ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/24/us/whitmer-kidnapping-trial.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/24/us/whitmer-kidnapping-tri... “ Of the dozen men on that nighttime surveillance mission, four of them including “Big Dan” were either government informants or undercover F.B.I. agents, according to court documents.” ——— Do you have a source for three quarters?
- fundad 5y ago
  it’s not surprising law enforcement was involved It was a message to Governors to not take public health seriously and of course it involved law enforcement officers, many who won’t mask or vaccinate.
- nkurz 5y ago
  I'm not sure of the percentages, but that same article includes this quote: "He was not alone. The F.B.I. deployed at least 12 informants, as well as several undercover agents, according to defense filings." It depends on who one is counting as a conspirator, and 3/4 may well be an overstatement, but it seems true that a surprising number of the people involved were employed by the FBI in some capacity.