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Exactly, why would anyone prefer Chrome to Edge? They both are built on the same Chromium core but Google adds a bunch tracking with merging your website loggin

by premun 5y ago

Exactly, why would anyone prefer Chrome to Edge? They both are built on the same Chromium core but Google adds a bunch tracking with merging your website logging together with your browser account.

tonyedgecombe 5y ago
Edge interferes with other web sites. I was purchasing an item from Amazon when it started popping up messages about other suppliers. If I didn't make my living writing Windows software I would have left the platform a long time ago.
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  When they integrated the buy now, pay later function you could make some scathing conclusion about the type of people calling the shots on Edge. What does this have to do with a browser?
gambiting 5y ago
>>Exactly, why would anyone prefer Chrome to Edge? Is this....a real question? I'll bite - because Chrome signs into my google account and it seemlessly remembers everything I do between my PC, my laptop and my phone. I literally couldn't care any less what core it uses, the usability aspect is just better than in Edge.
- rightbyte 5y ago
  > it seemlessly remembers everything I do between my PC, my laptop and my phone That is not a feature, unless you are OK with Google spying on you.
  - gambiting 5y ago
    How is this not a feature then? Yes I'm ok with my browsing history and bookmarks and tabs and extensions and everything else being synced using google servers because it makes my life easier. To give another example - my Volvo allows me to track every single journey in the app, seeing the electricity/petrol consumption, mileage, start/end date..... Yes it means Volvo now knows all of my travel history. But it also means I get access to functionality that is useful to me. If that's not a feature to you, then don't use it. The question was "why would anyone prefer Chrome" - because it's a very good browser which has useful features. Like, it's not rocket science.
    - f1refly 5y ago
      What do you gain from having every single journey in your app and seeing the fuel consumption? Have you ever actually looked at those stats? I think I've never in my life been in a situation where I thought "Dang, I wish I knew how much kilometers my last 18 trips where, if only I had some kind of tracking device that kept these stats for me!"
      - rightbyte 5y ago
        And if you need that, my -98 Volvo got a little pin on the dash you can press to zero a sub-odometer. It also reset the fuel consumption average. So, ye, no need for spyware. Google biggest sin is normalizing all these spywares embedded in everything. It is spreading everywhere, even my Samsung TV, and legislators are like 10 years behind were they should have started to "GDPR" everything.
        gambiting 5y ago
        >>And if you need that, my -98 Volvo got a little pin on the dash you can press to zero a sub-odometer. It also reset the fuel consumption average. So, ye, no need for spyware. Not sure how this would work in a PHEV where the car is seamlessly switching between EV and ICE running, or in fact compliments ICE with the EV motor. You need the internal reads from the ECU to know exactly how much electricity/petrol was consumed. You could - of course - provide that without syncing it externally to any servers and then avoid the whole privacy issue.
      - gambiting 5y ago
        >>Have you ever actually looked at those stats? Literally all the time. It's a PHEV, and maybe not for every journey, but for 8/10 journeys I will look how many kWh of electricity and litres of petrol were consumed, and how many kWh of electricity have been regenerated. When I drive I try to stay in EV mode as long as possible, and regenerate power as much as I can and looking at those stats after every journey gives me a lot of satisfaction. I've driven across Europe last year and it was great to see detailed stats for the entire journey. It's literally one of my favourite things about this car for me, alongside the ability to pre-heat and pre-cool it remotely. Edit: also, I don't use it this way, but I know people find the online journal hugely useful for tracking business miles, you can just download an .xml with all trips from the app and that makes it super easy claiming tax/fuel costs back.
  - rekoil 5y ago
    You can encrypt the synced data. Through it's probably only possible because Google doesn't need to snoop on the synced data when their browser is pinging everything you do back to them anyway through various Chrome telemetry features.
    - rightbyte 5y ago
      Ye, it is a bit like Google's push for https, blocking out competitors' spyware.
  - tejohnso 5y ago
    Many people are ok with trading privacy for convenience, or even basic fashion, or a bit of short term excitement. "I have nothing to hide".
    - rightbyte 5y ago
      Sure, just make the spying opt-in and I will stop complaining.
    - raxxorrax 5y ago
      Those people should be quarantined in my opinion to not ruin it for everyone. Of course it would be easy to offer said convenience without the data sharing.
- donatzsky 5y ago
  Firefox can do that as well. And the Android version is arguably better than Chrome, since it has extensions (even if limited at the moment).
  - gambiting 5y ago
    Sure but the question was "why would anyone prefer chrome over Edge" not why would you use Chrome over Firefox.
- endemic 5y ago
  Don’t all major browsers have this feature? My Firefox account syncs bookmarks/history, and I can share tabs between devices.
ImaCake 5y ago
Edge has more user hostile “features” at the moment. I use firefox, but make use of chromium for google earth (which runs poorly in firefox on a laptop). I had been using edge for a while, but the constant pop-ups and frequent crashes on MacOS has made me switch back to chrome. Freshly installed chrome has limited pop-up bullshit and doesn’t force itself to be the default. Big wins for me for my backup chromium browser.
iqanq 5y ago
They keep adding features to Edge that nobody has asked for. And they have rewritten parts of the UI, making them much slower. On the other hand, once you disable the Google sign-in feature of Chrome and change the new tab to about:blank, it's the cleanest browser there is - much cleaner than Firefox, which is shovelware at this point, and adds new crap every new major version.

by premun 5y ago

Exactly, why would anyone prefer Chrome to Edge? They both are built on the same Chromium core but Google adds a bunch tracking with merging your website logging together with your browser account.

tonyedgecombe 5y ago

Edge interferes with other web sites. I was purchasing an item from Amazon when it started popping up messages about other suppliers. If I didn't make my living writing Windows software I would have left the platform a long time ago.

raxxorrax 5y ago
When they integrated the buy now, pay later function you could make some scathing conclusion about the type of people calling the shots on Edge. What does this have to do with a browser?

gambiting 5y ago

>>Exactly, why would anyone prefer Chrome to Edge? Is this....a real question? I'll bite - because Chrome signs into my google account and it seemlessly remembers everything I do between my PC, my laptop and my phone. I literally couldn't care any less what core it uses, the usability aspect is just better than in Edge.

rightbyte 5y ago
> it seemlessly remembers everything I do between my PC, my laptop and my phone That is not a feature, unless you are OK with Google spying on you.
- gambiting 5y ago
  How is this not a feature then? Yes I'm ok with my browsing history and bookmarks and tabs and extensions and everything else being synced using google servers because it makes my life easier. To give another example - my Volvo allows me to track every single journey in the app, seeing the electricity/petrol consumption, mileage, start/end date..... Yes it means Volvo now knows all of my travel history. But it also means I get access to functionality that is useful to me. If that's not a feature to you, then don't use it. The question was "why would anyone prefer Chrome" - because it's a very good browser which has useful features. Like, it's not rocket science.
  - f1refly 5y ago
    What do you gain from having every single journey in your app and seeing the fuel consumption? Have you ever actually looked at those stats? I think I've never in my life been in a situation where I thought "Dang, I wish I knew how much kilometers my last 18 trips where, if only I had some kind of tracking device that kept these stats for me!"
    - rightbyte 5y ago
      And if you need that, my -98 Volvo got a little pin on the dash you can press to zero a sub-odometer. It also reset the fuel consumption average. So, ye, no need for spyware. Google biggest sin is normalizing all these spywares embedded in everything. It is spreading everywhere, even my Samsung TV, and legislators are like 10 years behind were they should have started to "GDPR" everything.
      - gambiting 5y ago
        >>And if you need that, my -98 Volvo got a little pin on the dash you can press to zero a sub-odometer. It also reset the fuel consumption average. So, ye, no need for spyware. Not sure how this would work in a PHEV where the car is seamlessly switching between EV and ICE running, or in fact compliments ICE with the EV motor. You need the internal reads from the ECU to know exactly how much electricity/petrol was consumed. You could - of course - provide that without syncing it externally to any servers and then avoid the whole privacy issue.
    - gambiting 5y ago
      >>Have you ever actually looked at those stats? Literally all the time. It's a PHEV, and maybe not for every journey, but for 8/10 journeys I will look how many kWh of electricity and litres of petrol were consumed, and how many kWh of electricity have been regenerated. When I drive I try to stay in EV mode as long as possible, and regenerate power as much as I can and looking at those stats after every journey gives me a lot of satisfaction. I've driven across Europe last year and it was great to see detailed stats for the entire journey. It's literally one of my favourite things about this car for me, alongside the ability to pre-heat and pre-cool it remotely. Edit: also, I don't use it this way, but I know people find the online journal hugely useful for tracking business miles, you can just download an .xml with all trips from the app and that makes it super easy claiming tax/fuel costs back.
- rekoil 5y ago
  You can encrypt the synced data. Through it's probably only possible because Google doesn't need to snoop on the synced data when their browser is pinging everything you do back to them anyway through various Chrome telemetry features.
  - rightbyte 5y ago
    Ye, it is a bit like Google's push for https, blocking out competitors' spyware.
- tejohnso 5y ago
  Many people are ok with trading privacy for convenience, or even basic fashion, or a bit of short term excitement. "I have nothing to hide".
  - rightbyte 5y ago
    Sure, just make the spying opt-in and I will stop complaining.
  - raxxorrax 5y ago
    Those people should be quarantined in my opinion to not ruin it for everyone. Of course it would be easy to offer said convenience without the data sharing.
donatzsky 5y ago
Firefox can do that as well. And the Android version is arguably better than Chrome, since it has extensions (even if limited at the moment).
- gambiting 5y ago
  Sure but the question was "why would anyone prefer chrome over Edge" not why would you use Chrome over Firefox.
endemic 5y ago
Don’t all major browsers have this feature? My Firefox account syncs bookmarks/history, and I can share tabs between devices.

ImaCake 5y ago

Edge has more user hostile “features” at the moment. I use firefox, but make use of chromium for google earth (which runs poorly in firefox on a laptop). I had been using edge for a while, but the constant pop-ups and frequent crashes on MacOS has made me switch back to chrome. Freshly installed chrome has limited pop-up bullshit and doesn’t force itself to be the default. Big wins for me for my backup chromium browser.

iqanq 5y ago

They keep adding features to Edge that nobody has asked for. And they have rewritten parts of the UI, making them much slower. On the other hand, once you disable the Google sign-in feature of Chrome and change the new tab to about:blank, it's the cleanest browser there is - much cleaner than Firefox, which is shovelware at this point, and adds new crap every new major version.