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They don't appear to be making any value judgments, at least from what I read in the article. If you have an entity that provides a charitable purpose, and noth
by buff-a 15y ago
They don't appear to be making any value judgments, at least from what I read in the article. If you have an entity that provides a charitable purpose, and nothing else, then you get lower costs. If you have an entity that is involved in something else, then you don't get lower costs.
- gizzlon 15y agoActually, I think that's exactly what they do. I don't know, but I guess deciding if something is nonprofit must be quite easy. Deciding who's charitable and who's not must be hard. Saying that someone is not charitable because they give out food AND preach is a huge value judgement.
- vacri 15y agoSaying that someone is not charitable because they give out food AND preach is a huge value judgement. That's a strawman. It's not saying they're not a charitable organisation, it's saying they're not an organisation whose sole purpose is charity.
- gizzlon 15y ago"That's a strawman." Maybe.. "it's saying they're not an organisation whose sole purpose is charity." And that's the value judgement. Right there. You just defined what a "charity" is, and is not. Some might call preaching a charity (I might) etc..
- felipemnoa 15y agoAnd you can also define jumping up and down as dancing.
- pbhjpbhj 15y agoYou're being a bit obtuse there. At some times jumping up and down is dancing; I'll assume that wasn't your point?
- vacri 15y agoIs it really a charity when the recipients don't necessarily want what you're giving them?
- gizzlon 15y agoThat's a valid question, but kind of besides the point. My point is just that deciding what's a charity -and what is not- is a "value judgement"
- vacri 15y agoWell, technically, yes, but then technically every social consideration is a value judgement. Besides, preaching is advertising. It's designed to increase the numbers of the parent organisation of the charity. Other things that are charity aren't designed to do this. Giving clothes to someone isn't designed to increase the numbers of the parent org. Most people consider "strings attached" charity to be not pure charity. Not to say it's uncharitable, but that it's not 100%.
- buff-a 15y agoYou did it just there with that "AND". Clearly not that hard.
- gizzlon 15y agohuh? Please clarify