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LineageOS

55 points by widea 5y ago

captn3m0 5y ago
Anyone here with thoughts on maintaining a device for Lineage? My (currently-unused) Moto Z Play is no longer supported by either Motorola or Lineage. Wondering how much work would be it to keep a port functional.
unixhero 5y ago
Why did Cyanogen cease development???
- opan 5y ago
  It was around the time of CyanogenOS and the OnePlus One. I kinda suspect the more corporate stuff happening sketched people out. OnePlus ended up switching to their own skin anyway, not sure what that was all about.
BXLE_1-1-BitIs1 5y ago
Running Android 11 on a Nexus 7 2013 as my daily driver. As a supported device with an "official" release I get mostly weekly updates. With some the device gets boggy, but over time it just keeps getting better. I've been battling with a Sony with an "unofficial" release. I really do prefer the Sony hardware quality over the Nexus, but it takes some serious masochism and rodent mazing to put a custom ROM on Sony.
cmurf 5y ago
I'm wondering how much I can de-Googlefi my life (see multiple other threads about G Suite legacy free going away) while also keeping Google Fi for voice and data. :\ It seems like if I keep any single thing, a hook reaches out and drags me fully back in. To activate Google Fi service on a phone, I need Google Fi app which drags in at least open gapps but I don't know if that's adequate without jumping to the full Google Play Services.
- dataangel 5y ago
  Can you just uninstall after activation?
- jqpabc123 5y ago
  They have done everything possible to keep you fenced in on the Google ranch. The ranch isn't run to benefit the cattle. The only reasonable and private alternative is to totally avoid the Google brand whenever possible.
boboche 5y ago
Using it on my note 3. Little Buggy. I need to perform adb commands to fix delayed sms and non working gps in google maps when I apply an update. You look in the forums, its supposely fixed. Other than that its rock solid and I can still use an almost decade old phone like its 2022. Still waiting for the next equivalent in terms of hardware build and future-proof features. Back in the days the note 3 had much bigger ram (3gb) and 4k video. So now I will switch when I see 8k, 12gb and night photo that doesn’t look like AI dulled crap but actual pixels. Hoping the galaxy 22 ultra will be the one. Note 20 was close.
- yeellow 5y ago
  I use Note 3 as well. 8 years old and still kicking. Sometimes drops wifi or gps and NFC is not working for payments, but overall I don't complain. Android 11 with frequent security updates. I doubt that the next phone would last so long.
  - wuschel 5y ago
    Interesting - I still have my good old note 3 as daily driver, although my use case has changed (It is the need for better modem/antenna tech) that makes me upgrade. I am testing the IPhone 13 now. It is quite a jump in UX, hardware capability (5G, camera, storage space not so much). Also, your flashlight app does not spy on you. The Note 3 was truly a masterpiece when it came into the market. Also, the the exchangeable battery was very practical. And 8+ years in use: what a economical and ecological device. If I find some time, I will have a look at lineageOS. Any hints?
    - yeellow 5y ago
      I use crDroid (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-11-hlte-official-crdroid-7-x-samsung-galaxy-note-3-hlte.4385323/#post-86299517 https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-11-hlte-official-crdr...) and it is really good.
SnaKeZ 5y ago
Using it on my POCO X3 PRO and it's perfect. Bootloader unlocked, Lineage OS installed and now I have a brand new smartphone without chinese crap.
jqpabc123 5y ago
Lineage is a useful and important project. However, be aware that their focus has mostly been on security and not so much on privacy. What this means is they worry a lot about hackers breaking into your phone but they don't worry much about daddy Google tracking you all over the internet and into the real world. Also, not sure why this is news now since the last update was in April.
- benlivengood 5y ago
  Last time I tried LineageOS it only came with whatever Google blobs were necessary for the phone to function, e.g. Fi stuff for Pixel/Nexus models, and that sounded like it was optional if an owner wanted to use a different carrier. I think the bigger weakness on the security front is the blobby nature of the kernel and firmware for the properietary parts of the SoC. It's certainly better than running out-of-date official Android releases though.
  - runjake 5y ago
    LineageOS comes with the Google Play Framework, which last I checked myself, contained the core components of Google’s telemetry and data collection.
    - YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y ago
      GPF is still optional.
      - dogma1138 5y ago
        It is an it’s not, too many apps rely on Google Play services these days for most consumers to have a functional device without it.
    - brnt 5y ago
      It does not. However, most people install ROMs that have them preinstalled.
    - 5y ago
vivab0rg 5y ago
Using a custom ROM on my second-hand Mi A2 Lite enabled me access to Android 11. Next step is to flash an ungoogled ROM for maximum privacy.

55 points by widea 5y ago

Anyone here with thoughts on maintaining a device for Lineage? My (currently-unused) Moto Z Play is no longer supported by either Motorola or Lineage. Wondering how much work would be it to keep a port functional.

unixhero 5y ago

Why did Cyanogen cease development???

opan 5y ago
It was around the time of CyanogenOS and the OnePlus One. I kinda suspect the more corporate stuff happening sketched people out. OnePlus ended up switching to their own skin anyway, not sure what that was all about.

BXLE_1-1-BitIs1 5y ago

Running Android 11 on a Nexus 7 2013 as my daily driver. As a supported device with an "official" release I get mostly weekly updates. With some the device gets boggy, but over time it just keeps getting better. I've been battling with a Sony with an "unofficial" release. I really do prefer the Sony hardware quality over the Nexus, but it takes some serious masochism and rodent mazing to put a custom ROM on Sony.

cmurf 5y ago

I'm wondering how much I can de-Googlefi my life (see multiple other threads about G Suite legacy free going away) while also keeping Google Fi for voice and data. :\ It seems like if I keep any single thing, a hook reaches out and drags me fully back in. To activate Google Fi service on a phone, I need Google Fi app which drags in at least open gapps but I don't know if that's adequate without jumping to the full Google Play Services.

dataangel 5y ago
Can you just uninstall after activation?
jqpabc123 5y ago
They have done everything possible to keep you fenced in on the Google ranch. The ranch isn't run to benefit the cattle. The only reasonable and private alternative is to totally avoid the Google brand whenever possible.

boboche 5y ago

Using it on my note 3. Little Buggy. I need to perform adb commands to fix delayed sms and non working gps in google maps when I apply an update. You look in the forums, its supposely fixed. Other than that its rock solid and I can still use an almost decade old phone like its 2022. Still waiting for the next equivalent in terms of hardware build and future-proof features. Back in the days the note 3 had much bigger ram (3gb) and 4k video. So now I will switch when I see 8k, 12gb and night photo that doesn’t look like AI dulled crap but actual pixels. Hoping the galaxy 22 ultra will be the one. Note 20 was close.

yeellow 5y ago
I use Note 3 as well. 8 years old and still kicking. Sometimes drops wifi or gps and NFC is not working for payments, but overall I don't complain. Android 11 with frequent security updates. I doubt that the next phone would last so long.
- wuschel 5y ago
  Interesting - I still have my good old note 3 as daily driver, although my use case has changed (It is the need for better modem/antenna tech) that makes me upgrade. I am testing the IPhone 13 now. It is quite a jump in UX, hardware capability (5G, camera, storage space not so much). Also, your flashlight app does not spy on you. The Note 3 was truly a masterpiece when it came into the market. Also, the the exchangeable battery was very practical. And 8+ years in use: what a economical and ecological device. If I find some time, I will have a look at lineageOS. Any hints?
  - yeellow 5y ago
    I use crDroid (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-11-hlte-official-crdroid-7-x-samsung-galaxy-note-3-hlte.4385323/#post-86299517 https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-11-hlte-official-crdr...) and it is really good.

SnaKeZ 5y ago

Using it on my POCO X3 PRO and it's perfect. Bootloader unlocked, Lineage OS installed and now I have a brand new smartphone without chinese crap.

jqpabc123 5y ago

Lineage is a useful and important project. However, be aware that their focus has mostly been on security and not so much on privacy. What this means is they worry a lot about hackers breaking into your phone but they don't worry much about daddy Google tracking you all over the internet and into the real world. Also, not sure why this is news now since the last update was in April.

benlivengood 5y ago
Last time I tried LineageOS it only came with whatever Google blobs were necessary for the phone to function, e.g. Fi stuff for Pixel/Nexus models, and that sounded like it was optional if an owner wanted to use a different carrier. I think the bigger weakness on the security front is the blobby nature of the kernel and firmware for the properietary parts of the SoC. It's certainly better than running out-of-date official Android releases though.
- runjake 5y ago
  LineageOS comes with the Google Play Framework, which last I checked myself, contained the core components of Google’s telemetry and data collection.
  - YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y ago
    GPF is still optional.
    - dogma1138 5y ago
      It is an it’s not, too many apps rely on Google Play services these days for most consumers to have a functional device without it.
  - brnt 5y ago
    It does not. However, most people install ROMs that have them preinstalled.
  - 5y ago

vivab0rg 5y ago

Using a custom ROM on my second-hand Mi A2 Lite enabled me access to Android 11. Next step is to flash an ungoogled ROM for maximum privacy.