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> At 1 million people before the vaccine (5% of 20 million), that would make "Long Covid" one of the most common medical conditions. ...and yet, we're not seei
by timr 5y ago
> At 1 million people before the vaccine (5% of 20 million), that would make "Long Covid" one of the most common medical conditions.
...and yet, we're not seeing these waves and waves of disabled people. This should give you pause, and make you doubt the claims of prevalence, the claims of severity, or both.
By the way: "reported" infections vastly underestimate the true prevalence of disease. Up until the Omicron wave (which has tremendously increased the number) the CDC estimated that almost 150 million US citizens have had it:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html#est-infections https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burd...
Again, this should make you doubt the claims of prevalence. If even 5% of cases have this "long Covid", we're talking about 8 million cases. If claims of 20% prevalence are true, boost that number to 30 million people. The burden on the medical system would be immense; you would not be able to get appointments for even basic care. Chronically disabled people should be swamping medical clinics everywhere.
It's simply obvious nonsense. Only by conflating minor symptoms with pathology do you get to an estimate anywhere near these kinds of numbers.
> Look at the sheer number of people who had anosmia and how long it is taking them to recover.
I'm one of them. Took about a week.
> That sure goes into the "Long Covid" bucket in my book and we're not even discussing the panoply of other damage that Covid does.
We're discussing it right now. What we're not discussing is the evidence for this "panoply of other damage"...because for the vast majority of "long Covid" symptoms, the evidence simply doesn't exist. We leap from self-reports of "symptoms" directly to "panoply of damage", based on little more than speculation and quotes from doctors.
- bsder 5y agoOne in four have Long Covid regardless of disease severity. https://health.ucdavis.edu/newsroom/news/headlines/studies-show-long-haul-covid-19-afflicts-1-in-4-covid-19-patients-regardless-of-severity/2021/03 https://health.ucdavis.edu/newsroom/news/headlines/studies-s...
- timr 5y agoIf you bother to read the papers cited within this press release, you'll see they all go on fishing expeditions to find anyone reporting symptoms, then claim that these are caused by Covid. From the headline study [1]: > Presenting symptoms included palpitations, chronic rhinitis, dysgeusia, chills, insomnia, hyperhidrosis, anxiety, sore throat, and headache among others. Literally anyone reporting sweating, headache, anxeity or insomnia is counted as "long Covid", if they hadn't reported it before their Covid diagnosis. Completely ridiculous. This is not research. [1] https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.03.21252086v1 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.03.21252086v...