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Things I'm hoping to see in time for a Framework machine to become my next laptop: - AMD processor options - Keyboards with a trackpoint - decades of ThinkPad

Things I'm hoping to see in time for a Framework machine to become my next laptop: - AMD processor options - Keyboards with a trackpoint - decades of ThinkPaddery have conditioned me; I regularly use a Dell touchpad-equipped laptop & contemporary Mac laptop and still pine for a trackpoint. Very personal preference, I know, but hopefully the Framework Marketplace comes to provide this. - Proper 14" HiDPI screen - Long battery life under Linux I'm impressed with what they've been able to do and really hope they become sustainably successful!

arnaudsm 5y ago
You're describing the Thinkpad T14S. It's a real shame it has soldered RAM, I hope Framework's success will show the industry there's an actual need for this.
- ayushnix 5y ago
  > You're describing the Thinkpad T14S. It doesn't seem to have a proper 14 inch HiDPI display. 1080p on 14 inches usually needs anywhere from 1.2x to 1.4x scaling and 4K would need around 2.5x scaling.
  - akvadrako 5y ago
    Depends on the OS. With Windows 4K on 14" does need 2.5x scaling, but it's ideal on Linux; this is what I use.
- hailvectron 5y ago
  I guess you're right, hadn't realized the AMD Thinkpads were now available with better than 1080p screens. Totally agree on the soldered RAM crap. Also would be great to buy from a more consumer-friendly company like Framework, especially if they are going to do things like support coreboot.
ayushnix 5y ago
> - Proper 14" HiDPI screen I can't stress this enough. The display on the Framework can't do integer scaling and so almost everyone who intends to use an external monitor with the Framework can't do that on Linux without extremely annoying issues such as significantly higher input latency, GUI apps behaving abnormally, and not being able to use an external monitor and the laptop screen simultaneously. I don't care if they release Coreboot for the Framework, it's useless with its screen.
- nicce 5y ago
  On Linux, Wayland supports separate monitors natively with different scalings?
  - ayushnix 5y ago
    > On Linux, Wayland supports separate monitors natively with different scalings? It does, but you will experience higher input latency than you would if you do not scale your display or use integer scaling. Some GUI apps might also misbehave when scaled fractionally. I'm not sure if the higher input latency will be noticeable to someone using pretty animations in GNOME/KDE but it is pretty jarring when you mostly work on a terminal. There's also a subtle loss of quality of text and images when using fractional scaling.
- toastal 5y ago
  "Proper" should also include at least 100% DCI-P3 coverage instead of sRGB

arnaudsm 5y ago

You're describing the Thinkpad T14S. It's a real shame it has soldered RAM, I hope Framework's success will show the industry there's an actual need for this.

ayushnix 5y ago
> You're describing the Thinkpad T14S. It doesn't seem to have a proper 14 inch HiDPI display. 1080p on 14 inches usually needs anywhere from 1.2x to 1.4x scaling and 4K would need around 2.5x scaling.
- akvadrako 5y ago
  Depends on the OS. With Windows 4K on 14" does need 2.5x scaling, but it's ideal on Linux; this is what I use.
hailvectron 5y ago
I guess you're right, hadn't realized the AMD Thinkpads were now available with better than 1080p screens. Totally agree on the soldered RAM crap. Also would be great to buy from a more consumer-friendly company like Framework, especially if they are going to do things like support coreboot.

ayushnix 5y ago

> - Proper 14" HiDPI screen I can't stress this enough. The display on the Framework can't do integer scaling and so almost everyone who intends to use an external monitor with the Framework can't do that on Linux without extremely annoying issues such as significantly higher input latency, GUI apps behaving abnormally, and not being able to use an external monitor and the laptop screen simultaneously. I don't care if they release Coreboot for the Framework, it's useless with its screen.

nicce 5y ago
On Linux, Wayland supports separate monitors natively with different scalings?
- ayushnix 5y ago
  > On Linux, Wayland supports separate monitors natively with different scalings? It does, but you will experience higher input latency than you would if you do not scale your display or use integer scaling. Some GUI apps might also misbehave when scaled fractionally. I'm not sure if the higher input latency will be noticeable to someone using pretty animations in GNOME/KDE but it is pretty jarring when you mostly work on a terminal. There's also a subtle loss of quality of text and images when using fractional scaling.
toastal 5y ago
"Proper" should also include at least 100% DCI-P3 coverage instead of sRGB