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This doesn’t seem like the case at all, considering, you know, the fact that they don’t really definitely mitigate anything. In my experience (and this is anec
by RONROC 5y ago
This doesn’t seem like the case at all, considering, you know, the fact that they don’t really definitely mitigate anything.
In my experience (and this is anecdotal) there’s no rhyme or reason as to why this virus affects some people more than others. You can try to tell me why, but it would ask me to betray what i’ve witnessed (or lack thereof) over the past two years.
The data isn’t reliable nor convincing, so i’m not sure how you’re in the definitive “experimental jab better than nothing” camp.
PS - Two doses here.
- 0xbadcafebee 5y ago> the fact that they don’t really definitely mitigate anything Unvaxxed people have 75x more hospitalization, 48x more death. (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/08/10/us/covid-breakthrough-infections-vaccines.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/08/10/us/covid-brea...) "Compared with the unvaccinated, fully vaccinated people overall had a much lower chance of testing positive for the virus or dying from it, even through the summer’s Delta surge and the relaxation of pandemic restrictions in many parts of the country." (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/10/28/us/covid-breakthrough-cases.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/10/28/us/covid-brea...) Vaccination definitely mitigates hospitalization and death.
- landemva 5y agoIt's starting to seem like the group who had it and recovered are ignored by the media. At least now the CDC is saying this group has more durable protection than the vaccinated. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e1.htm 'By early October, persons who survived a previous infection had lower case rates than persons who were vaccinated alone.'
- 8note 5y agoThe people who would have been hospitalized and died of covid already died in the previously infected group. You're looking at a fundamentally different group of people. If you didn't consider the vaccinated people who then died of covid, you'd see a lot less hospitalizations there too
- landemva 5y agoCan you help me understand the focus of your comment? Should the current group who have recovered take the side-effect risks, or is the CDC note about reduced susceptibility to infection something to consider when making a decision about the first vaccine shot?
- jb1991 5y agoThere was an article just one or two days ago that indicated that vaccination prevents against hospitalization something like many multiples of times greater protection than recovery from prior infection.
- nradov 5y agoBeyond the vaccination factor, it's clear that this virus affects obese people more than others. Regardless of what you might have witnessed the data is crystal clear on that point. https://www.wfae.org/health/2021-09-30/novant-says-9-of-10-children-in-covid-icus-are-overweight-but-public-health-officials-rarely-talk-about-obesity https://www.wfae.org/health/2021-09-30/novant-says-9-of-10-c... https://cardiologyres.org/index.php/Cardiologyres/article/view/1118/1127 https://cardiologyres.org/index.php/Cardiologyres/article/vi... https://reason.com/2022/01/03/cdc-covid-19-children-hospitalization-obesity-teenagers/ https://reason.com/2022/01/03/cdc-covid-19-children-hospital...
- lamontcg 5y ago> the fact that they don’t really definitely mitigate anything. tell me that you're completely uninformed without telling me that you're completely uninformed.