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> For them it means a fixed percentage of revenue has to go to the front of house. ??? Tipping is not a "fixed percentage." You may have a few edge cases here

> For them it means a fixed percentage of revenue has to go to the front of house. ??? Tipping is not a "fixed percentage." You may have a few edge cases here, but I have to push back on the idea that business owners don't like it. They get to pay their front house staff next to nothing, this money consistently goes untaxed, and it gives their employees incentive to work hard. It also gives their front house the capability to make an income that the owner themselves would never dream of paying, meaning they can have talented employees just show up magically without having to alter their business in any way. I have to agree that the people who like it THE MOST are the people also most likely to complain: the servers and bartenders. It only takes some basic math to identify that being a server is the highest paying entry level job in the United States simply because of tipping culture.

danaris 5y ago
> being a server is the highest paying entry level job in the United States simply because of tipping culture. ...if you get just the right job in just the right area. The exact same job—even at a chain—in two restaurants just a few miles apart could have massively different levels of tips.
kasey_junk 5y ago
It’s not a fixed percentage but it’s close enough to think of it that way. The real problem is that they are legally prohibited from using tip share to pay their back of house more. This puts them in a situation where if they want to raise kitchen staff wages they have to raise prices and restaurant customers are extremely price sensitive. Several high end restaurants (were presumably there would be less price sensitivity) have tried doing away with tips and raising their prices to pay all staff a more uniform wage. It’s largely failed. Customers don’t like higher prices and front if house staff largely prefer tips as they make more (at the cost of lower pay for their kitchen colleagues).

danaris 5y ago

> being a server is the highest paying entry level job in the United States simply because of tipping culture. ...if you get just the right job in just the right area. The exact same job—even at a chain—in two restaurants just a few miles apart could have massively different levels of tips.

kasey_junk 5y ago

It’s not a fixed percentage but it’s close enough to think of it that way. The real problem is that they are legally prohibited from using tip share to pay their back of house more. This puts them in a situation where if they want to raise kitchen staff wages they have to raise prices and restaurant customers are extremely price sensitive. Several high end restaurants (were presumably there would be less price sensitivity) have tried doing away with tips and raising their prices to pay all staff a more uniform wage. It’s largely failed. Customers don’t like higher prices and front if house staff largely prefer tips as they make more (at the cost of lower pay for their kitchen colleagues).