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> Was Pipewire even on distros by the time they decided to "abuse the one API"? No. Pipewire only arrived on the most unstable distros end of last year. It's i
by onli 5y ago
> Was Pipewire even on distros by the time they decided to "abuse the one API"?
No. Pipewire only arrived on the most unstable distros end of last year. It's in no way available for all, and not a common standard (yet). And you are right, wayland in general is not the norm yet. I'd even say it's likely to never replace X11 completely, given its shortcomings and X11's stability.
- boudin 5y agoPipewire has been there for more than that, I've been using it for a few years now. You might be mistaken with the audio part of it (that replaces Pulseaudio and Jack).
- onli 5y agoIt's possible I did not notice the non-audio part was already in the wayland-enabling distros before, if that was the case.
- boudin 5y agoIt was definitely available in distros like arch and gentoo. Fedora as well when then switched to wayland by default. More conservative distro might not have included it though, but they are on X11 by default so it's not needed in the first place.
- bitwize 5y agoX11 is moribund. Part of why is because literally everyone who was working on it in a major way, possibly excepting Keith Packard, eventually considered it a dead end and jumped ship to Wayland.
- Filligree 5y agoRegardless, if I want to do something as simple as running a Minecraft client, I need to run X11 or else live with about 20 FPS. If the old thing is broken, and the new thing isn't ready yet, then what are we supposed to do? Use Windows I suppose.
- hughesjj 5y agoBack to the TTY like Lord Stallman intended
- yjftsjthsd-h 5y agomoribund, stable, I don't care what you call it; X11 actually works consistently, which remains more than Wayland can say
- phkahler 5y agoYMMV but I've found both to work fine, with Wayland providing the advertised tear-free video experience that X never could. Granted, when I tried OBS about a year ago I had to resort to an X-session, and that worked as expected. Not that OBS works properly on Wayland, my own use for X - I think - is done.
- shrimp_emoji 5y agoThe solution for tearing is adaptive sync monitors. Wayland's justification should be a (theoretically) better platform and codebase.
- bitwize 5y agoYou can also set TearFree in X.