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Before anyone freaks out too much: "Persistent" means up to one week. From the actual paper: "However, results were not significant for an abstinence period of

Before anyone freaks out too much: "Persistent" means up to one week. From the actual paper: "However, results were not significant for an abstinence period of more than 7 days." Basically, science has proved that stoners behave like stoners. And if you stop it takes a few days for everything to wear off.

Mortiffer 5y ago
Thank you for this extract. Iv seen many past meta analysis on the 7 to 14 day impairment but no difference after that. Based on these findings i use marijuana regularly but never in periods of need of high output like fundraising, product release date sprint etc... There are a lot of parts of life when you have a lot of stress but you don't actually need to be on your top game you just need to show up for those periods weed is amazing.
- avodonosov 5y ago
  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/ > Cannabis appears to continue to exert impairing effects in executive functions even after 3 weeks of abstinence and beyond. While basic attentional and working memory abilities are largely restored, the most enduring and detectable deficits are seen in decision-making, concept formation and planning.
avodonosov 5y ago
Your quote only relates to verbal learning and verbal memory, in one of the included meata-analisys. The study includes many more cognitive functions. Why do you quote this phrase from the middle of the text, out of context? Read results in the abstract.
- froh 5y ago
  I did read the study, and while it clearly spells out that effect wane after one week in many cases, it remains completely vague on any persistence of long term effects under abstinence. I've searched for the words day, week, month and year and there is absolutely no clear cut result to the end of persistency of THC/CBD effects. What the study does clarify though is that the cohorts in most studies were small and that more research is needed for more tangible results. The one positive advise, well hidden, is to counsel youth about unhealthy usage patterns, i.e. chronic canabis abuse. A lot of fluff around no solid findings. Which is a statement in and by itself.
demosito666 5y ago
This matches my experience perfectly. I used to smoke weed about once a month when when I was a teenager, and I noticed that I could observe mild cognitive impairments for about a week after smoking. They were fading gradually during those days. To illustrate, the next day after smoking I would occasionally notice that it takes me two times longer than usual to understand the task in school textbook and sometimes I could even loose the thread in a conversation. I also would catch my mind "frozen" in some thought, like "why can't the government just print all the money it needs?". Usually the next second you'd move to "ah, because inflation", but in that case it'd just "stand" at place. On subsequent days it'd become less severe, and on day 5 and later I'd only notice that I forget why I came to the kitchen more often than usual. After about a week I was not able to spot anything unusual. This was actually quite scare and was one of the reasons I eventually quite entirely. Another reason by the way was that I don't really find the effect pleasant or relaxing like many do. I fact, weed induces paranoia, thought loop and other unpleasant effects in my mind. The same is true for alcohol and lots of other drugs, so maybe my case is a bit more severe than regular.
- JPKab 5y ago
  > I also would catch my mind "frozen" in some thought, like "why can't the government just print all the money it needs?". Usually the next second you'd move to "ah, because inflation", but in that case it'd just "stand" at place. Painfully relevant given the current fiscal policies.
- aunty_helen 5y ago
  Your experience pretty much matched mine with the cognitive impairment. It’s just something to wait out and not get stressed about for 2-3 days after. I find I get a bit paranoid when I take too much (generally I only ingest edibles, my days of harsh af smoking doobies are over). However, I do see benefits because I’m the kind of person that let’s little stressors accumulate over time. My somewhat infrequent usage has always come with a reset of my stress. It would be nice if it didn’t also come with a bit of downtime the week after.
CameronNemo 5y ago
As someone else mentioned, I think that only applied to certain effects. But the paper did say something along the lines of "persistent effects are highly debated" (sorry the site won't let me copy anything or download a PDF...)

Mortiffer 5y ago

Thank you for this extract. Iv seen many past meta analysis on the 7 to 14 day impairment but no difference after that. Based on these findings i use marijuana regularly but never in periods of need of high output like fundraising, product release date sprint etc... There are a lot of parts of life when you have a lot of stress but you don't actually need to be on your top game you just need to show up for those periods weed is amazing.

avodonosov 5y ago
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/ > Cannabis appears to continue to exert impairing effects in executive functions even after 3 weeks of abstinence and beyond. While basic attentional and working memory abilities are largely restored, the most enduring and detectable deficits are seen in decision-making, concept formation and planning.

avodonosov 5y ago

Your quote only relates to verbal learning and verbal memory, in one of the included meata-analisys. The study includes many more cognitive functions. Why do you quote this phrase from the middle of the text, out of context? Read results in the abstract.

froh 5y ago
I did read the study, and while it clearly spells out that effect wane after one week in many cases, it remains completely vague on any persistence of long term effects under abstinence. I've searched for the words day, week, month and year and there is absolutely no clear cut result to the end of persistency of THC/CBD effects. What the study does clarify though is that the cohorts in most studies were small and that more research is needed for more tangible results. The one positive advise, well hidden, is to counsel youth about unhealthy usage patterns, i.e. chronic canabis abuse. A lot of fluff around no solid findings. Which is a statement in and by itself.

demosito666 5y ago

This matches my experience perfectly. I used to smoke weed about once a month when when I was a teenager, and I noticed that I could observe mild cognitive impairments for about a week after smoking. They were fading gradually during those days. To illustrate, the next day after smoking I would occasionally notice that it takes me two times longer than usual to understand the task in school textbook and sometimes I could even loose the thread in a conversation. I also would catch my mind "frozen" in some thought, like "why can't the government just print all the money it needs?". Usually the next second you'd move to "ah, because inflation", but in that case it'd just "stand" at place. On subsequent days it'd become less severe, and on day 5 and later I'd only notice that I forget why I came to the kitchen more often than usual. After about a week I was not able to spot anything unusual. This was actually quite scare and was one of the reasons I eventually quite entirely. Another reason by the way was that I don't really find the effect pleasant or relaxing like many do. I fact, weed induces paranoia, thought loop and other unpleasant effects in my mind. The same is true for alcohol and lots of other drugs, so maybe my case is a bit more severe than regular.

JPKab 5y ago
> I also would catch my mind "frozen" in some thought, like "why can't the government just print all the money it needs?". Usually the next second you'd move to "ah, because inflation", but in that case it'd just "stand" at place. Painfully relevant given the current fiscal policies.
aunty_helen 5y ago
Your experience pretty much matched mine with the cognitive impairment. It’s just something to wait out and not get stressed about for 2-3 days after. I find I get a bit paranoid when I take too much (generally I only ingest edibles, my days of harsh af smoking doobies are over). However, I do see benefits because I’m the kind of person that let’s little stressors accumulate over time. My somewhat infrequent usage has always come with a reset of my stress. It would be nice if it didn’t also come with a bit of downtime the week after.

CameronNemo 5y ago

As someone else mentioned, I think that only applied to certain effects. But the paper did say something along the lines of "persistent effects are highly debated" (sorry the site won't let me copy anything or download a PDF...)