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> As of December 6, 2012, Google stopped offering the free edition to new customers. 10 years of a free product is not bad
by yaacov 5y ago
> As of December 6, 2012, Google stopped offering the free edition to new customers.
10 years of a free product is not bad
- deweywsu 5y agoNothing against you, but a clarification here: this is a service, not a product.
- dylan604 5y agoFor the free service, the user was the product. Now, the service is the product. Only since it's Googs, the user will still be a product too. Googs needs to re-watch the Seinfeld episode on double dipping.
- vesinisa 5y agoYes, and Hacker News calling it "killing for existing customers" is ridiculous. No service or access is being "killed" here - they are simply asking to start paying for it like everyone else.
- bmarquez 5y agoOne of the problems is that people who paid for Google Play purchases and other services have no way of migrating them to a free Gmail account.
- edoceo 5y agoOr from free into the Paid ones - either move you pay twice.
- KallDrexx 5y agoWait, we'll lose our purchases even going from gsuite to workspace? Is that confirmed somewhere?
- decrypt 5y agoI think the parent company misunderstood the process as being required to move to a new Google account. That's not the case as far as I can tell from the support document. The account remains the same, just have to pay for the service.
- someguydave 5y ago"How does the upgrade affect my current G Suite legacy free edition subscription? Your current G Suite legacy free subscriptions and related services will continue to function as they do today, until you self-upgrade or we upgrade you automatically to one of the new editions." That "until" is really ambiguous - does that mean services terminate when you self-upgrade?
- vesinisa 5y agoNo, it means that you upgrade to a paid Google Workspace account. If you don't want to pay for it you can cancel it: https://support.google.com/a/answer/1257646 https://support.google.com/a/answer/1257646 If you cancel it, your account is converted to an ordinary external domain Google account AFAICT. You need to migrate your email out of Google/Gmail to get service messages over email, but you can continue using your Google account as an ordinary Gmail-like account - only difference being that you handle your email yourself (because you didn't want to pay Google to do it for you.)
- vesinisa 5y agoWell not to a Gmail account (since you can't change your Google account email address), but your Google account and associated purchases is not deleted: https://support.google.com/a/answer/1257646 https://support.google.com/a/answer/1257646 Just set up your MX with some other service if you are not happy with Gmail, or start running your own SMTP server.
- q1w2 5y ago99% of the users of the free product just wanted to have their group/family/etc to use gmail with a custom domain. That product is still free at other providers. We'll just be moving.
- edoceo 5y agoIt will cost you dozens of hours to move your 10+ years of digital stuff. The big G has done a real pinch here.
- YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y agoGoogle Takeout is not even that bad...
- greatpatton 5y agoYes but for my family of 4 it would cost me 4612= 288$ per year! That's about 50% of my yearly unlimited fiber internet access (that also come with a free email). For me that's the last nail in the coffin, will make sure in the future to keep away from all Google product (private or professional). What is strange is how in a few year Google went from the cool company where everybody wanted to work to something that can almost be compared to a tobacco company.
- redleggedfrog 5y agoIn my case it won't, because, of course, it's all backed up locally. This Google outfit can be pretty sketchy at times - needed to make sure they didn't close down and take my stuff.
- KallDrexx 5y agoIt's not just that I can't use them for email anymore. I wouldn't mind that. But now I'll lose access to any purchases on my phone, my Youtube purchases and history, I need to create a new account for my phone, etc....
- Macha 5y agoMaybe it's just a relic of me holding out for the Google Plus migration so long but my youtube account is a "brand account" which is definitely a thing I can transfer to another google account (indeed there were a few youtubers who got famously scammed last summer into doing this). Maybe yours is set up similarly? Android apps will be a pain. I have apps that are no longer sold, or am grandfathered on a premium 1 time purchase for stuff that is now subscription based, etc.
- KallDrexx 5y ago> Maybe it's just a relic of me holding out for the Google Plus migration so long but my youtube account is a "brand account" which is definitely a thing I can transfer to another google account (indeed there were a few youtubers who got famously scammed last summer into doing this). Maybe yours is set up similarly? Could be. I'd have to figure this out, thanks for the heads up.
- KallDrexx 5y agoLooks like that may not be possible for people in my situation. From the youtube docs: > You can move your channel and its videos over from one account to another. Note that if your account is a supervised account or a work or school account, you cannot move your channel. So it depends if g suite is considered a "work or school" account or not.
- OmegaPG 5y agoThis. It will definitely hurt us financially as we have around 10 domains with 20 email ids. We can't delete them due to older emails but can't complain as Google did allowed free account for 10 years. I hope there is a service Migration of emails from Gmail to other platforms.
- rc_mob 5y agoExcept they promised it would be free forever