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Show HN: Hebrew Wordle
- kseistrup 5y agoThanks! I only know the very little hebrew that I learned a looong time ago while volunteering in a kibbutz, but I managed to guess today's word in 5 guesses: https://twitter.com/kseistrup/status/1483869736014393352 https://twitter.com/kseistrup/status/1483869736014393352
- harel 5y agoNever played the English version, but failed miserably in the Hebrew one.
- angryGhost 5y agohas this game suddenly gained popularity or something?
- mankyd 5y agoVery much so: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/03/technology/wordle-word-game-creator.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/03/technology/wordle-word-ga...
- contravariant 5y agoCurious why this particular instance became popular. Or was it only the Netherlands where this game formed the basis for a famous gameshow?
- nerevarthelame 5y agoI'm not familiar with previous versions, but I do think one big reason this one succeeded is the easy ability to share your results (through a simple copy/paste) without sharing specific guesses through emojis, which helped virality. HN doesn't display them correctly, but one example: https://res.cloudinary.com/graham-media-group/image/upload/f_auto/q_auto/c_scale,w_828/v1/media/gmg/PIUR3CV3FBGEPNU6IJR3X2ZOEA.jpeg https://res.cloudinary.com/graham-media-group/image/upload/f...
- Kiro 5y agoAlso the fact that it's one word a day, same for everyone, so people have a habit of doing the daily word and sharing it. It creates a community feeling. I often discuss the word with my friends like "what word did you start with?" etc after seeing their emojis. The endless-mode Wordle copycats are just not fun and miss the whole point. I want to do the word and move on with my day, as part of a daily ritual.
- macintux 5y agoAlso helpful: the clean, minimalistic yet helpful interface, and most importantly no ads.
- schnevets 5y agoLet's not forget no sign-up/authentication. The session is stored locally, so you keep your stats as long as you use the same phone/browser each day. Interestingly, this lean design also means the answer is stored locally, but as one commenter observed "Anyone pointing this out would have their mind blown when they learned the newspaper jumble and the answers in the corner upside-down" These decisions would be terrible for a competitive game where folks are striving to top the HIGH SCORE tables, but are smart for an approachable little daily routine.
- Hamuko 5y agoNote that the game actually works off of local time, so you might actually have a different word than someone else even if you play at the same time. As soon as it hits 00:00 where you are, it switches to the next predetermined word.
- qwertygnu 5y agoIn the US, we had Lingo - a game show with almost an identical premise that ran from 1987-2011. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingo_(American_game_show) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingo_(American_game_show)
- Kiro 5y agoHow is it possible to have missed the Wordle mania? It has infected all layers of my social circle. I love it.
- Zircom 5y agoJust another anecdote but HN is the actually only place I've seen it mentioned personally
- detritus 5y agoIt's been all over the newspaper media here in the UK recently, and I'd had it shared a few times back in [November?] from my circle of friends. Me being me, I ignored it until it was posted here... .
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- compsciphd 5y agoI see your hebrew wordle and raise you yiddish wordle https://www.jiconway.com/vertl/ https://www.jiconway.com/vertl/
- nanna 5y agoCool. Is the source code up? How easy would it be to extend to other RTL languages like Yiddish, Farsi and Arabic?
- james-redwood 5y agoOnce you have the RTL most of your problems are solved, but I think it may be a problem with Perso-Arabic alphabets as letter forms change depending on the letters around it as they link into a single word, almost like cursive. I don’t think the concept would translate well into languages that use that.
- londgine 5y agoArabic crossword puzzles work just fine
- sprak 5y agoHere is a swedish version: https://ordlek.github.io/ordlek/ https://ordlek.github.io/ordlek/ (I haven't translated the ui yet, will do later this week.)
- 3np 5y agoAlso, from Sweclockers forum (: https://ordlig.se/ https://ordlig.se/
- fpopa 5y agoWe've also got romanian now: https://cuvantul.github.io/cuvantul https://cuvantul.github.io/cuvantul
- unwind 5y agoLooks very nice! I found a typo in the first line of the initial help pop-up: Gissa dagens ord på sex på försök! Should of course drop the duplicated "på". Also, it was annoyingly hard to copy-paste that line since the pop-up closes whenever I try. :)
- sprak 5y agoTack!/Thanks! The typo is fixed now
- rossdavidh 5y agoI am not impressed until someone makes Gallifreyan (sp?).
- webmaven 5y ago> I am not impressed until someone makes Gallifreyan (sp?). As far as I know, Gallifreyan hasn't been worked up into an actual language. Klingon could probably be done, though.
- bszupnick 5y agoCool! How does it handle סופית letters like ך /ח? Like totally separate letters? For the non-Hebrew speakers, Hebrew has some letters that change form when placed at the end of the word. The Hebrew keyboard has these forms in their own key, but colloquially they're the same letter.
- amitport 5y agoYou mean צ / ץ פ / ף כ / ך And it does seem to treat them like totally different letters. They are the same though I'm not sure what will be more fun to play. Note that Hebrew has fewer letters to begin with (22 not counting those).
- mikepurvis 5y agoMy favourite Wordle thing is still the adversarial one, by the creator of Hatetris: https://qntm.org/files/wordle/index.html https://qntm.org/files/wordle/index.html
- echelon 5y agoThis HN poster had the same idea: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29864418 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29864418
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- Bootvis 5y agoI wonder whether it is maximally adversarial. SPOILER At first I tried to solve starting with 'raise'. This led me down a path were I got words that fit '_ o _ _ y' which fits way too many words. I managed to solve it in 6 words by following a different strategy: Open up with 'lysin', this gives zero hits and then I played more standard which was easy because I didn't end up in a situation where I can't distinguish between options.
- evouga 5y agoIt’s probably not as-adversarial-as-possible in the sense of maximizing the minimum number of guesses to win. From playing in an ad hoc way I found TINES->BOARD->LUMPY->CLUCK->FLUFF which wins in 5 moves. I feel like an even harder variant would “herd” you towards cases where you’re forced to guess consonants one or two at a time.
- 3np 5y agoIn that scenario, it can be helpful to try words that you know will fail, just to exhaust more unused letters in one guess.
- Bootvis 5y agoTrue, but I feel that is not in the spirit of the game.
- drorco 5y agoI think this won't work so well in Hebrew. As an example, SPOILER ALERT, Today's word starts in ב, and when I try to think of words starting in ב, I'm constantly thinking of words where "ב" acts as the "in-" prefix for a word. I think in English this never happens as unlike Hebrew, I can't think of a letter than can act as a meaningful prefix. *SPOILER for today's Wordle* *** *** Eventually, today's word is בהחלט in which ב can be considered as a prefix since ב-החלט -- "in decisiveness". ** ** *****
- Benlights 5y agoAre we playing a different game? By me the word starts with a "מ"
- drorco 5y agoInteresting. My gf gave it a go after I did and she like you got a word starting with מ.
- lozenge 5y agoWell, I always think of five letter plurals that end in S, even when I know there is no S in that position.
- drorco 5y agoTrue, but in English I think this is more of a suffix thing, for example you can have words like "soft"->"softly", "poll->polls". I think this effect is much more subtle when this happens with a suffix rather than a prefix.
- siltpotato 5y ago
- jerf 5y ago"I think in English this never happens as unlike Hebrew, I can't think of a letter than can act as a meaningful prefix." a on its own can be a few different prefixes: https://www.etymonline.com/word/a-?ref=etymonline_crossreference#etymonline_v_24553 https://www.etymonline.com/word/a-?ref=etymonline_crossrefer... Many of the examples cited in that will strike a modern English speaker as simply being the word, such as "amethyst" which was news to me, but we have moral -> amoral, sexual -> asexual, and a few others. I certainly agree I've never thought of this in the context of a word game, as opposed to the s suffix which is almost mandatory in Boggle, for instance.
- fnord123 5y agoWhat is wordle?
- doublerabbit 5y agoGuess a five letter word in less than six tries. Word resets every day. https://www.powerlanguage.co.uk/wordle/ https://www.powerlanguage.co.uk/wordle/
- onionisafruit 5y agoThanks for the link. I had previously seen wordle mentioned on hn and sought it out on apple’s app store. I ended up with a much different game - one that I didn’t enjoy at all. Now I see the real wordle is much more interesting. I googled and found[1] that I’m far from the only one. [1] https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2022-01-17-dev-behind-5-year-old-wordle-app-donates-sudden-windfall-to-charity-as-users-mistakenly-flock-to-his-game https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2022-01-17-dev-behind-5-y...
- b3orn 5y agoI made a french version last weekend https://motle.fac3.org https://motle.fac3.org
- mabub24 5y agoVery cool, I was able to get the word after 3 guesses. I guess learning French has actually been paying off for me!
- sprak 5y agoOn my phone the colours of the letters in the keyboard didn't upgrade from yellow to green. Great otherwise!
- bombastry 5y agoIf you get the word right on your 6th guess, the game still counts it as if you lost in the stats.
- b3orn 5y agothx, I'll fix that.
- julienchastang 5y agoThere is also https://wordle.louan.me/ https://wordle.louan.me/ FWIW.
- jaredwiener 5y agoMy daily reminder that שכחתי את כל העברית שלי
- ekanes 5y agoLo ha kol!
- senorsmile 5y agoברור
- ftth_finland 5y agoFinnish version: https://sanuli.fi https://sanuli.fi
- gardaani 5y agoIts implemented in Rust! https://github.com/Cadiac/sanuli https://github.com/Cadiac/sanuli
- sigvef 5y agoSince we are sharing variants in different languages, here's Norwegian: https://www.fiveletters.xyz/no/five https://www.fiveletters.xyz/no/five
- kseistrup 5y ago#somebodyshould make a danish version…
- sprak 5y agoI can modify my swedish one to do danish. Do you know of any good word lists? For all valid words I can use /usr/share/dict/danish. But do you know of any list that only has good clue words? I'm looking for something like https://scrabbleforening.wordpress.com/ordlister/ord-med-4-bogstaver/ https://scrabbleforening.wordpress.com/ordlister/ord-med-4-b... but for five letters
- kseistrup 5y agoI can easily give you a list of all valid 5-letter words in Danish. Would that do?
- kseistrup 5y agoPS: I'm unsure how the clue thing works?
- sprak 5y agoTake the word "lampa". You have versions of the word: "lampor", "lampan" and so on. The correct word for each day should only be of the type "lampa". No "bending". That is the word list that I'm looking for. But you should be able to guess words that are "bent". Those I can get from /usr/share/dict/danish
- kseistrup 5y ago
- sharikous 5y agoThe name reminds me of Yiddish spelling (על for "el/le"). I think in Israel this specific spelling is out of fashion (but it's nice to see it) Is it to be pronounced "wordale"?
- golemiprague 5y ago
- pedrosorio 5y agoPortuguese: https://term.ooo/ https://term.ooo/
- diffuse_l 5y agoCool, much easier for me than the English version. It could be nice to treat ending letters the same as regular letters (on the keyboard), similar to the way crosswords work in Hebrew.
- ggerganov 5y agoHere is Wordle in Bulgarian: https://wordle-bg.ggerganov.com https://wordle-bg.ggerganov.com Interesting about it is that I implemented this in C++ and OpenGL and ported it to web with Emscripten [0], so the page is basically a WebGL canvas. [0] https://github.com/ggerganov/wordle-bg https://github.com/ggerganov/wordle-bg
- forth_fool 5y agoMy attempt to create a German one (slightly different rules from the original): https://www.waswort.de https://www.waswort.de
- toper-centage 5y agoWhat are the rules then? I'm typing words and it's saying they are not legal words?
- forth_fool 5y agoThe idea is, as in the original, that for guessing you have to enter valid words. In this case, it's 6-letter words. However, it's not easy to obtain a complete list of valid 6-letter German words, so the ones you are trying might be missing. Working on it.
- moron4hire 5y agoI work for a foreign language training company. I bet all of these versions in different languages would be really great tools for our students. Has anyone already started one of those "Awesome XYZ" lists on Github for all of them?
- senorsmile 5y agoתודה רבה!
- pingiun 5y agoI made Dutch wordle! https://woordle.nl https://woordle.nl Also source (in Elm): https://github.com/pingiun/woordle/ https://github.com/pingiun/woordle/