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It makes me so angry that people don’t see how the current administration was given a hand grenade with the pin pulled by the previous one. Pumping the stock m

It makes me so angry that people don’t see how the current administration was given a hand grenade with the pin pulled by the previous one. Pumping the stock market at the cost of all else by unprecedented money printing, seeding incredible division into America, ignoring Covid and refusing to even wear a mask and then handing that mess off to the next guy. The American public blaming the next guy because he couldn’t put the grenade back together seems so short sighted and ignorant.

lalaland1125 5y ago
That combined with how foreign actors work to hurt Democrats through the economy. The rise in gas prices wasn't a coincidence or due to Biden's actions. OPEC (which includes such wonderful actors like Saudi Arabia and Russia) intentionally reduced production and raised prices in part to punish Biden's admin for working against authoritarian nations.
- Ekaros 5y ago
  The low prices in recent times was anomaly from demand shock. Looking back to 2018 the prices don't seem that different. At least for crude oil.
tmaly 5y ago
- karmakurtisaani 5y ago
  We can leave one liner memes in Reddit. No harm done.
yesco 5y ago
Well Biden confidently went in front of the public and claimed he could, I thinks it's reasonable to be upset with politicians who fail to meet their promises
- Damogran6 5y ago
  That's not limited to one party or the other. Likewise, Mexico didn't pay for a wall.
  - deleted 5y ago
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- nradov 5y ago
  Joe Biden in October 2020: "We're eight months into this pandemic, and Donald Trump still doesn't have a plan to get this virus under control. I do." https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1316894374500962305 https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1316894374500962305
  - markoman 5y ago
    Nobody blamed Trump for the pandemic even after he downplayed it and referred to it as a 'democrat hoax' at a rally. Now, it seems like Biden is left holding the bag, simply because he claimed to have a plan to address it. A pandemic isn't some finite, controllable force. It adapts and mutates when given the chance to do so. And the failure of almost 40% of our highly-fractured population to accede to vaccines, masks, or lockdowns is making these mutations possible and likely. You can't just spray the air to rid the world of this virus. It has to be killed within its human hosts or blocked at points of infection. The anti-vaccine crowd at first pointed to lacking FDA approval and once that came, refused due to possible 'long term side effects'. I'm unfamiliar with any infamy around long-term side effects of past vaccines, so I see this as something of an excuse. It's just easier to blame the President who promised to get it under control, isn't it? But is it fair?
    - nradov 5y ago
      Stop lying. Trump never claimed that the pandemic was a "democrat hoax". https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-virus-outbreak-ap-fact-check-politics-joe-biden-1eea443cca46df5f18e61b7c34549da2 https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-virus-outbreak-ap-f... There are plenty of legitimate reasons to criticize his response to the pandemic without making things up. The current thinking is that mutations are most likely to occur in immunocompromised patients who experience prolonged infections. I encourage everyone eligible to protect themselves by getting vaccinated, but vaccines are less effective in those with malfunctioning immune systems. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/covid-variants-may-arise-in-people-with-compromised-immune-systems/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/covid-variants-ma... I'll leave you with another Biden quote from October 2020: "220,000 Americans dead. If you hear nothing else I say tonight, hear this. Anyone who's responsible for not taking control — in fact, not saying, I take no responsibility, initially — anyone who is responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States of America." We're up to 900K deaths now. Is it fair to blame Biden for failing to get it under control? Probably not, but he never hesitated to blame his predecessor. Politics is never fair. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/23/debate-transcript-trump-biden-final-presidential-debate-nashville/3740152001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/...
pbourke 5y ago
The Fed controls monetary policy, and it’s still mostly independent of the administration. Trump often seemed displeased with Fed Chair Powell. Also the bull market started before Trump’s inauguration. I don’t think you can blame Trump for the division in the country. For exploiting it: sure. But he didn’t create it. I think that Democrats seriously misread the temperature of the country after the 2020 election. They thought they were granted a progressive mandate when really the voters wanted stability and competence with perhaps incremental progress on certain key issues. All evidence points in this direction, starting with the 2018 midterms when a slate of moderate candidates gave them a House majority (despite all the noise about a few celebrity progressive candidates). The moderate labor Democrat Biden was the nominee over Sanders and Warren, etc.
- bryanlarsen 5y ago
  Individual polling says that people did want a progressive mandate. The measures inside the Build Back Better bill each have 70 - 80% support when polled individually. But Build Back Better only has 40% support. The messed up political system that forces the Dems to bundle the disparate measures together is the main culprit, and navigating that with only 50 senators is really hard. 50 senators combined with silly filibuster rules and Republican/Sinema/Manchin exploitation of the rules is the hand grenade the Dems are dealing with.
  - nradov 5y ago
    There's really nothing stopping Democrats from proposing much smaller bills containing only the most popular parts of Build Back Better.
    - bryanlarsen 5y ago
      Those bills would never get through the senate, because they can't use the budget filibuster-busting process like Build Back Better does and thus would need 60 votes.
      - 5y ago

lalaland1125 5y ago

That combined with how foreign actors work to hurt Democrats through the economy. The rise in gas prices wasn't a coincidence or due to Biden's actions. OPEC (which includes such wonderful actors like Saudi Arabia and Russia) intentionally reduced production and raised prices in part to punish Biden's admin for working against authoritarian nations.

Ekaros 5y ago
The low prices in recent times was anomaly from demand shock. Looking back to 2018 the prices don't seem that different. At least for crude oil.

tmaly 5y ago

karmakurtisaani 5y ago
We can leave one liner memes in Reddit. No harm done.

yesco 5y ago

Well Biden confidently went in front of the public and claimed he could, I thinks it's reasonable to be upset with politicians who fail to meet their promises

Damogran6 5y ago
That's not limited to one party or the other. Likewise, Mexico didn't pay for a wall.
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
nradov 5y ago
Joe Biden in October 2020: "We're eight months into this pandemic, and Donald Trump still doesn't have a plan to get this virus under control. I do." https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1316894374500962305 https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1316894374500962305
- markoman 5y ago
  Nobody blamed Trump for the pandemic even after he downplayed it and referred to it as a 'democrat hoax' at a rally. Now, it seems like Biden is left holding the bag, simply because he claimed to have a plan to address it. A pandemic isn't some finite, controllable force. It adapts and mutates when given the chance to do so. And the failure of almost 40% of our highly-fractured population to accede to vaccines, masks, or lockdowns is making these mutations possible and likely. You can't just spray the air to rid the world of this virus. It has to be killed within its human hosts or blocked at points of infection. The anti-vaccine crowd at first pointed to lacking FDA approval and once that came, refused due to possible 'long term side effects'. I'm unfamiliar with any infamy around long-term side effects of past vaccines, so I see this as something of an excuse. It's just easier to blame the President who promised to get it under control, isn't it? But is it fair?
  - nradov 5y ago
    Stop lying. Trump never claimed that the pandemic was a "democrat hoax". https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-virus-outbreak-ap-fact-check-politics-joe-biden-1eea443cca46df5f18e61b7c34549da2 https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-virus-outbreak-ap-f... There are plenty of legitimate reasons to criticize his response to the pandemic without making things up. The current thinking is that mutations are most likely to occur in immunocompromised patients who experience prolonged infections. I encourage everyone eligible to protect themselves by getting vaccinated, but vaccines are less effective in those with malfunctioning immune systems. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/covid-variants-may-arise-in-people-with-compromised-immune-systems/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/covid-variants-ma... I'll leave you with another Biden quote from October 2020: "220,000 Americans dead. If you hear nothing else I say tonight, hear this. Anyone who's responsible for not taking control — in fact, not saying, I take no responsibility, initially — anyone who is responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States of America." We're up to 900K deaths now. Is it fair to blame Biden for failing to get it under control? Probably not, but he never hesitated to blame his predecessor. Politics is never fair. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/23/debate-transcript-trump-biden-final-presidential-debate-nashville/3740152001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/...

pbourke 5y ago

The Fed controls monetary policy, and it’s still mostly independent of the administration. Trump often seemed displeased with Fed Chair Powell. Also the bull market started before Trump’s inauguration. I don’t think you can blame Trump for the division in the country. For exploiting it: sure. But he didn’t create it. I think that Democrats seriously misread the temperature of the country after the 2020 election. They thought they were granted a progressive mandate when really the voters wanted stability and competence with perhaps incremental progress on certain key issues. All evidence points in this direction, starting with the 2018 midterms when a slate of moderate candidates gave them a House majority (despite all the noise about a few celebrity progressive candidates). The moderate labor Democrat Biden was the nominee over Sanders and Warren, etc.

bryanlarsen 5y ago
Individual polling says that people did want a progressive mandate. The measures inside the Build Back Better bill each have 70 - 80% support when polled individually. But Build Back Better only has 40% support. The messed up political system that forces the Dems to bundle the disparate measures together is the main culprit, and navigating that with only 50 senators is really hard. 50 senators combined with silly filibuster rules and Republican/Sinema/Manchin exploitation of the rules is the hand grenade the Dems are dealing with.
- nradov 5y ago
  There's really nothing stopping Democrats from proposing much smaller bills containing only the most popular parts of Build Back Better.
  - bryanlarsen 5y ago
    Those bills would never get through the senate, because they can't use the budget filibuster-busting process like Build Back Better does and thus would need 60 votes.
    - 5y ago