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Everyone is rightly criticizing the clear manipulation here. That said, "60-90% of abuse takes place within the home or family circle," - a quote from Mick Mor

Everyone is rightly criticizing the clear manipulation here. That said, "60-90% of abuse takes place within the home or family circle," - a quote from Mick Moran, co-ordinator of the crimes against children unit at Interpol. That leaves up to 40% happening online and elsewhere. Is it actually possible to prevent this online without compromising privacy? I think that's a legitimate problem to try to work on.

croes 5y ago
>That leaves up to 40% happening online and elsewhere Mainly elsewhere and mainly IRL not online.
- prohobo 5y ago
  Sure, I'm just saying: it's still a legitimate problem and shouldn't be ignored.
  - croes 5y ago
    The problem is legitimate but the proposed solution is useless
throwawayffffas 5y ago
> Is it actually possible to prevent this online without compromising privacy? It's trivial, take kids out of social media.
- vorticalbox 5y ago
  I don't see this said enough and I cannot state enough. You should stop your children from having unrestricted access to the internet. I personalty don't see it as anyone else's job to protect my children but me and their mother.
dragonwriter 5y ago
> That leaves up to 40% happening online and elsewhere “Online” isn't just a place abuse happens in a way that is exclusive with abuse being “at home or in the family circle”, it's a place preparation for abuse happens and products of abuse are distributed. A lot of the online abuse material is from abuse that happens at home or in the family circle.
api 5y ago
The remaining up to 40% is also mostly IRL: school, church, camp, neighbors' houses, and so on. Going after online sex abuse while 90%+ of it happens IRL is like trying to solve climate change by targeting marginal uses of fossil fuel like motorboats while ignoring coal fired power... which... is something we also do. You target the biggest things first. That's how you solve problems. For child abuse that means targeting home and institutional IRL abuse.
bopbeepboop 5y ago

croes 5y ago

>That leaves up to 40% happening online and elsewhere Mainly elsewhere and mainly IRL not online.

prohobo 5y ago
Sure, I'm just saying: it's still a legitimate problem and shouldn't be ignored.
- croes 5y ago
  The problem is legitimate but the proposed solution is useless

throwawayffffas 5y ago

> Is it actually possible to prevent this online without compromising privacy? It's trivial, take kids out of social media.

vorticalbox 5y ago
I don't see this said enough and I cannot state enough. You should stop your children from having unrestricted access to the internet. I personalty don't see it as anyone else's job to protect my children but me and their mother.

dragonwriter 5y ago

> That leaves up to 40% happening online and elsewhere “Online” isn't just a place abuse happens in a way that is exclusive with abuse being “at home or in the family circle”, it's a place preparation for abuse happens and products of abuse are distributed. A lot of the online abuse material is from abuse that happens at home or in the family circle.

api 5y ago

The remaining up to 40% is also mostly IRL: school, church, camp, neighbors' houses, and so on. Going after online sex abuse while 90%+ of it happens IRL is like trying to solve climate change by targeting marginal uses of fossil fuel like motorboats while ignoring coal fired power... which... is something we also do. You target the biggest things first. That's how you solve problems. For child abuse that means targeting home and institutional IRL abuse.

bopbeepboop 5y ago