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Vast majority of Joe Rogan Spotify letter signatories are not medical doctors
- horns4lyfe 5y agoJoe Rogan is entertainment radio for bros. I say that as a bro. I don’t like any of the “approved” talk show type entertainment like John Oliver or whatever else. Can I please just have entertainment I like? If you take his show away I’ll just find something similar.
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- throwawaysea 5y ago@dang there’s a typo in this title if you’re able to help. It should say “Rogan” not “Rohan”
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- jjulius 5y ago>Well, I reviewed this open letter, and it turns out that only around 100 of the 270+ signatories to the letter are people with qualified medical degrees. And a large chunk of that 100 or so medical doctors are MDs employed at universities who are not in fact practitioners of medicine. This would land a lot better if they showed their work; a list of each person who signed it along with degree or job title or whathaveyou. It's hard to trust one random person who says, "I reviewed it, trust me," without any clear evidence that someone beside themselves verified their claim. Such is the nature of Substack/Medium/et. al., I suppose.
- kashunstva 5y ago> This would land a lot better if they showed their work. Indeed. The argument is further weakened by the inclusion of medical residents among the disqualified signatories. Having once been a medical resident many years ago, I can assure the author that a) medical residents are medical doctors and b) the do actually practice medicine and c) they are allowed to have an opinion about whether Mr. Rogan's opinions on issues touching on the medical sciences are evidence-based or not.
- stephencanon 5y ago> And a large chunk of that 100 or so medical doctors are MDs employed at universities who are not in fact practitioners of medicine. … what exactly do they think MDs employed by universities do?
- antifa 5y agoAlso "vast majority" refers to 90%, not 67%. https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/126654/is-vast-majority-something-to-avoid/126757 https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/126654/is-vast-m...
- no-dr-onboard 5y agoYour argument from stack exchange isn’t particularly convincing considering the answer you linked is prefaced with “when I use an adjective…”.
- antifa 5y agoAre you saying words don't have definitions or meanings when they are adjectives?
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- ZeroGravitas 5y agoI followed their link to the "far-left" rockerfeller foundation, so the non-doctor who was one of the main authors bio there is: > Jessica Malaty Rivera, MS > Science Communication Lead at The Pandemic Tracking Collective > Jessica Malaty Rivera is an infectious disease epidemiologist and science communicator. She earned her MS in Emerging Infectious Diseases from the Georgetown School of Medicine and has dedicated the last 15 years of her career to disease surveillance research, public health policy, and vaccine advocacy. > She is currently the Science Communication Lead for The COVID Tracking Project at The Atlantic, a researcher with the COVID-19 Dispersed Volunteer Research Network, a research affiliate at Boston Children’s Hospital Innovation & Digital Health Accelerator, and an expert contributor for NBC Bay Area and CNN. If that's "far-left" then I don't want to be "right".
- version_five 5y agoWhy does being or not being a medical doctor make you more qualified to promote censorship. I think there is more weight behind laypeople defining norms they believe society should adhere to (democracy effectively) vs a group of technocrats stepping outside their lane and trying to control what / how media is published.
- rnk 5y agoI don't think it's promoting censorship. When someone claims medical expertise and authority when they have none, and they make medical proclamations that are actually dangerous (especially when they have a large audience), it's noteworthy if actual medical authorities express concern about their ideas.
- no-dr-onboard 5y agoI think you might be confusing the podcast host with his guests. Rogan isn’t someone claiming medical expertise or authority. His guests, on the other hand, are often well qualified to make their statements.
- netizen-936824 5y agoHow about Dr. Oz? Just as a singular example of a medical doctor who consistently promotes quackery and he's definitely not alone
- version_five 5y agoDr. Oz is obviously a harmful quack / charletton. He should be called out at every opportunity, but he should definitely be allowed to continue to promote himself. Our civic duty is to make fun of him (or at least his ideas), not to censor him.
- netizen-936824 5y agoI do agree that we shouldn't censor, and continue to call out the quackery. My point in bringing up Dr. Oz was to give an example of a medical professional who should not be trusted when it comes to the way they give credence to bad ideas and methodology. Just because Joe Rogan's guests have credentials doesn't mean that the ideas they bring to the table are automatically good.
- Zigurd 5y agoMDs are often less authoritative on public health matters than PhDs in biochemistry, virology, etc. But this is not a topic requiring publications on your CV. A medical resident can readily discern the damage done by misinformation on a popular radio program.
- netizen-936824 5y ago100% agree. MDs aren't the ones doing the research and elucidating mechanisms. They learn from the researchers.