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I heard it's Kamala(the VP) who started this 'stealing under $950 each time you got it for free' in CA, is it true? Anyways I guess the voters got what they vo

I heard it's Kamala(the VP) who started this 'stealing under $950 each time you got it for free' in CA, is it true? Anyways I guess the voters got what they voted for, only them can change that by next vote. Nobody to blame really as those who made these rules are elected by CA voters. Law and order are key to modern society, it's not perfect, the alternatives are just much worse.

Supermancho 5y ago
> Kamala Harris told voters in 2014 that Proposition 14(typo) was "The Safe Neighborhoods and Schools Act." Among other reductions in penalties, the law "requires misdemeanor sentence instead of felony for the following crimes when amount involved is $950 or less: petty theft, receiving stolen property, and forging/writing bad checks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_California_Proposition_47 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_California_Proposition_47 I would say "stealing under $950 each time you got it for free" is inaccurate.
gnopgnip 5y ago
What about Texas or Wisconsin where theft up to $2500 is a misdemeanor?
- josephcsible 5y ago
  Texas and Wisconsin are a little bit more willing to put people in jail for misdemeanors.
  - gnopgnip 5y ago
    The numbers don't add up for this explanation either. The clearance rate is higher in the west
- dahfizz 5y ago
  It's not just misdemeanor vs felony. If you report a robery to Texas police, they will investigate and prosecute the thief. LA police will tell you to screw off.
bufferout 5y ago
Political hysteria aside, CA property crime rates are at their lowest levels since 1960.
- barry-cotter 5y ago
  Recorded property crimes are at their lowest since 1960. In San Francisco shops have boarded up their windows to stop smash and grabs[1] and shoplifting has become blatant and all pervasive[2]. People don't report crime if they know it won't be prsosecuted > Crime data is only as good as what gets reported A former property manager of a Walgreens store tweeted the Chronicle article didn’t take into account that police crime data is only as good as the crimes that get reported — and his Walgreens had “stopped reporting” retail theft “since there was no point” with “multiple shoplifting incidents every single day. See [2] [1]https://www.newsweek.com/san-francisco-stores-board-amid-wave-smash-grab-lootings-1655004#:~:text=Several%20San%20Francisco%2Darea%20stores,the%20city%20and%20across%20California.&text=Last%20month%2C%20the%20Louis%20Vuitton,to%20steal%20dozens%20of%20items https://www.newsweek.com/san-francisco-stores-board-amid-wav.... [2]https://engardio.com/blog/shoplifting-walgreens https://engardio.com/blog/shoplifting-walgreens
- synergy20 5y ago
  maybe most people are at home these days? plus you can shoplift in public at daytime for $950, why bothering to break in anyone's property while adults are at home ready to shoot back?

Supermancho 5y ago

> Kamala Harris told voters in 2014 that Proposition 14(typo) was "The Safe Neighborhoods and Schools Act." Among other reductions in penalties, the law "requires misdemeanor sentence instead of felony for the following crimes when amount involved is $950 or less: petty theft, receiving stolen property, and forging/writing bad checks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_California_Proposition_47 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_California_Proposition_47 I would say "stealing under $950 each time you got it for free" is inaccurate.

gnopgnip 5y ago

What about Texas or Wisconsin where theft up to $2500 is a misdemeanor?

josephcsible 5y ago
Texas and Wisconsin are a little bit more willing to put people in jail for misdemeanors.
- gnopgnip 5y ago
  The numbers don't add up for this explanation either. The clearance rate is higher in the west
dahfizz 5y ago
It's not just misdemeanor vs felony. If you report a robery to Texas police, they will investigate and prosecute the thief. LA police will tell you to screw off.

bufferout 5y ago

Political hysteria aside, CA property crime rates are at their lowest levels since 1960.

barry-cotter 5y ago
Recorded property crimes are at their lowest since 1960. In San Francisco shops have boarded up their windows to stop smash and grabs[1] and shoplifting has become blatant and all pervasive[2]. People don't report crime if they know it won't be prsosecuted > Crime data is only as good as what gets reported A former property manager of a Walgreens store tweeted the Chronicle article didn’t take into account that police crime data is only as good as the crimes that get reported — and his Walgreens had “stopped reporting” retail theft “since there was no point” with “multiple shoplifting incidents every single day. See [2] [1]https://www.newsweek.com/san-francisco-stores-board-amid-wave-smash-grab-lootings-1655004#:~:text=Several%20San%20Francisco%2Darea%20stores,the%20city%20and%20across%20California.&text=Last%20month%2C%20the%20Louis%20Vuitton,to%20steal%20dozens%20of%20items https://www.newsweek.com/san-francisco-stores-board-amid-wav.... [2]https://engardio.com/blog/shoplifting-walgreens https://engardio.com/blog/shoplifting-walgreens
synergy20 5y ago
maybe most people are at home these days? plus you can shoplift in public at daytime for $950, why bothering to break in anyone's property while adults are at home ready to shoot back?