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And now there's been a derail incident on that same stretch of track. Could have been caused by all the debris. https://twitter.com/bellikemike/status/14824807

And now there's been a derail incident on that same stretch of track. Could have been caused by all the debris. https://twitter.com/bellikemike/status/1482480779544256514 https://twitter.com/bellikemike/status/1482480779544256514 This account is the one that first posted video, check his other posts for more stuff.

sschueller 5y ago
The YouTube channel "German in Venice" was there today and asked one of the train workers which told him the derailment was not caused by the trash. Looking at another video on Twitter where the train is riding on both tracks it appears and railway switch failed halfway while the train was running over it. I saw this happen to a light rail here in Zürich during a very cold day, the railway switch snapped back in the middle of a railcar running over it. One track turned up another street so the railcar ripped apart at the flexible junction. Of course a piece of trash could easily have caused the failure of the railway switch.
throwaway0a5e 5y ago
It takes a lot of trash on the tracks to derail a train. Trains frequently just run over downed trees because clearing them would involve hours of waiting and it rarely does any damage of note. Maybe if the trash is scrap steel you might have a shot. It's pretty likely that the derailment is a switching failure because the train is riding on two different tracks. If it was just dragging along on the ties and rail bed that would be more indicative of some other kind of derailment.
- throwaway75787 5y ago
  Does this mean that the switch points were blocked by the trash/dumped packages? There was a video showing that one of the rails had fallen over on its side. I have never seen that in a derailment. I did see a WWII-era film where the US Army had a tough time derailing trains they were trying to sabotage, so this is all amazing to me.
  - throwaway0a5e 5y ago
    >Does this mean that the switch points were blocked by the trash/dumped packages? Potentially, I know they can get clogged up with the right mixture of snow turned into ice. Trash is hard to pack that densely without trying though I suppose a large object could have jammed the switch gear. >There was a video showing that one of the rails had fallen over on its side. A train riding two rails will put a lot of sideways force on the rails pulling them together. Rails aren't shaped to resist very much force in that direction. >where the US Army had a tough time derailing trains they were trying to sabotage, so this is all amazing to me. They were working under very different constraints than you or I.

sschueller 5y ago

The YouTube channel "German in Venice" was there today and asked one of the train workers which told him the derailment was not caused by the trash. Looking at another video on Twitter where the train is riding on both tracks it appears and railway switch failed halfway while the train was running over it. I saw this happen to a light rail here in Zürich during a very cold day, the railway switch snapped back in the middle of a railcar running over it. One track turned up another street so the railcar ripped apart at the flexible junction. Of course a piece of trash could easily have caused the failure of the railway switch.

throwaway0a5e 5y ago

It takes a lot of trash on the tracks to derail a train. Trains frequently just run over downed trees because clearing them would involve hours of waiting and it rarely does any damage of note. Maybe if the trash is scrap steel you might have a shot. It's pretty likely that the derailment is a switching failure because the train is riding on two different tracks. If it was just dragging along on the ties and rail bed that would be more indicative of some other kind of derailment.

throwaway75787 5y ago
Does this mean that the switch points were blocked by the trash/dumped packages? There was a video showing that one of the rails had fallen over on its side. I have never seen that in a derailment. I did see a WWII-era film where the US Army had a tough time derailing trains they were trying to sabotage, so this is all amazing to me.
- throwaway0a5e 5y ago
  >Does this mean that the switch points were blocked by the trash/dumped packages? Potentially, I know they can get clogged up with the right mixture of snow turned into ice. Trash is hard to pack that densely without trying though I suppose a large object could have jammed the switch gear. >There was a video showing that one of the rails had fallen over on its side. A train riding two rails will put a lot of sideways force on the rails pulling them together. Rails aren't shaped to resist very much force in that direction. >where the US Army had a tough time derailing trains they were trying to sabotage, so this is all amazing to me. They were working under very different constraints than you or I.