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Yeah, because linux is so locked down you cant access, manipulate or kill processes in any way else...

newsclues 5y ago
Windows, when it’s good, is actually great, and task manager is an example of good UI and functional backend. Linux just hasn’t built the same easy interface but of course it can do the same things, but no one has built the UI
- aflag 5y ago
  I think it's a matter of getting used to. The task manager drives me mad. I never feel like I'm full control or know what's going on. Whereas with kill, ps, top and friends I feel like I can diagnose things a lot better. The task manager doesn't even seem to have a search bar, whereas I can just use "grep" in linux. Just right now I was trying to see if indeed it didn't have a search bar and task manager crashed when I tried to exit it. I'm more used to have several small tools I can compose and do what I need instead of having a single app where I have to hope the developers thought about the specific thing I need it to do.
  - cute_boi 5y ago
    I also used to be linux nerd but as I grow old I find such thing uninteresting. I wish for simple interface where I can kill process, view cpu use etc. In htop its like 3-4 steps to send kill signal which I don't like. And task manager is easy to access to like right click on task bar and click on task manager or Ctrl + Alt + Del. Also searching is generally not hard in task manager, you can just type process name and it should select it. Yes, it can be tricky sometime but most of time I use it to see process which consumes high cpu or internet bandwidth. I do agree with GP, windows task manager is simple. If we need advance feature we can use process hacker etc. I do agree with you too. So its just a matter of taste. But most user aren't nerd and they want something simple like task manager. My mom would simply refuse to use linux because she simply doesn't like cli interface.
    - RobertMiller 5y ago
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
    Windows has somewhat stripped down versions of the same kind of commandline process management: tasklist | findstr chrome.exe taskkill /IM chrome.exe /F taskkill /PID <pid> /F
    - newsclues 5y ago
      Some people dislike windows but haven’t experienced modern niceties like powershell I doesn’t totally suck
      - tialaramex 5y ago
        I expected to like Powershell, but I came away even less happy in Powershell than trying to program bash. It felt so much as though it had been built by aliens who'd watched a video of Unix shell programming and integrated their own strange preferences, while also stirring in things from Windows. At the end of a week's work, I had a script which worked on my system, but blew up on the production systems it was intended for, and although we eventually worked around the stupid problem I want nothing further to do with that work. I co-own the far larger C# project it's associated with despite never having written C# a year ago, C# feels like a nice but slightly boring modern language, I probably wouldn't choose to write it for pleasure, but I don't hate getting paid to do so. However I seriously regret assuming that it was worth writing the "obviously just a script" part in Powershell rather than wrapping it all in C# and having the "script" just run that. So, maybe it "doesn't totally suck" but it sure does suck pretty badly.
- amelius 5y ago
  No, it's there (see other comments in this thread), but it wasn't the default in the OP's distro.

Windows, when it’s good, is actually great, and task manager is an example of good UI and functional backend. Linux just hasn’t built the same easy interface but of course it can do the same things, but no one has built the UI

aflag 5y ago
I think it's a matter of getting used to. The task manager drives me mad. I never feel like I'm full control or know what's going on. Whereas with kill, ps, top and friends I feel like I can diagnose things a lot better. The task manager doesn't even seem to have a search bar, whereas I can just use "grep" in linux. Just right now I was trying to see if indeed it didn't have a search bar and task manager crashed when I tried to exit it. I'm more used to have several small tools I can compose and do what I need instead of having a single app where I have to hope the developers thought about the specific thing I need it to do.
- cute_boi 5y ago
  I also used to be linux nerd but as I grow old I find such thing uninteresting. I wish for simple interface where I can kill process, view cpu use etc. In htop its like 3-4 steps to send kill signal which I don't like. And task manager is easy to access to like right click on task bar and click on task manager or Ctrl + Alt + Del. Also searching is generally not hard in task manager, you can just type process name and it should select it. Yes, it can be tricky sometime but most of time I use it to see process which consumes high cpu or internet bandwidth. I do agree with GP, windows task manager is simple. If we need advance feature we can use process hacker etc. I do agree with you too. So its just a matter of taste. But most user aren't nerd and they want something simple like task manager. My mom would simply refuse to use linux because she simply doesn't like cli interface.
  - RobertMiller 5y ago
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
  Windows has somewhat stripped down versions of the same kind of commandline process management: tasklist | findstr chrome.exe taskkill /IM chrome.exe /F taskkill /PID <pid> /F
  - newsclues 5y ago
    Some people dislike windows but haven’t experienced modern niceties like powershell I doesn’t totally suck
    - tialaramex 5y ago
      I expected to like Powershell, but I came away even less happy in Powershell than trying to program bash. It felt so much as though it had been built by aliens who'd watched a video of Unix shell programming and integrated their own strange preferences, while also stirring in things from Windows. At the end of a week's work, I had a script which worked on my system, but blew up on the production systems it was intended for, and although we eventually worked around the stupid problem I want nothing further to do with that work. I co-own the far larger C# project it's associated with despite never having written C# a year ago, C# feels like a nice but slightly boring modern language, I probably wouldn't choose to write it for pleasure, but I don't hate getting paid to do so. However I seriously regret assuming that it was worth writing the "obviously just a script" part in Powershell rather than wrapping it all in C# and having the "script" just run that. So, maybe it "doesn't totally suck" but it sure does suck pretty badly.
amelius 5y ago
No, it's there (see other comments in this thread), but it wasn't the default in the OP's distro.