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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna54596 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna54596 "General Motors knew about a defect in its ignition switches eight years

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna54596 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna54596 "General Motors knew about a defect in its ignition switches eight years ago and changed the design of an internal part, but never told federal regulators or the drivers of its cars, according to evidence from a recent lawsuit filed by the parents of a Georgia woman who died in a 2010 GM car crash"

AnthonyMouse 5y ago
It's not that nobody writes the story, it's that nobody sees the story.
- jolux 5y ago
  Nah this was all over the news. I heard about it. Everyone I know heard about it, especially if they're into cars. See also Toyota's infamous sticky accelerator recall, or the Takata airbag recall. The difference is that Tesla didn't have a near-perfect history of shipping reliable vehicles for decades before screwing up like this the way Toyota did. Tesla's reputation is slowly being formed by failures such as these. I already know several people who have elected to get a Mach-E instead of a Tesla because of concerns about quality. If they don't improve they're going to be seen (rather aptly) like the Lotus of electric cars in a few years: beautiful, powerful shitboxes that nobody wants to have to rely on as a daily driver.
- specto 5y ago
  Who's fault is that? It's still news....
- ra7 5y ago
  So the car company with the most hype attracts the most attention? I don't see what the issue is.
  - AnthonyMouse 5y ago
    First line of GM recall story (https://www.motortrend.com/news/whoops-2012-chevrolet-sonics-recalled-for-possible-missing-front-brake-pads-152143/ https://www.motortrend.com/news/whoops-2012-chevrolet-sonics...): > General Motors is recalling some 4300 units of its 2012 Chevrolet Sonic after finding that some of the Sonics were missing front brake pads. First line of this story: > Tesla is oftentimes accused of presenting a shiny veneer to the public and its shareholders, only to show its ugly side to employees and customers. The GM story is dry, factual. There's no indignation. It's less than a quarter of the length of the Tesla story. Nobody's going to get worked up and spread it around social media. That's not just about who the companies are, it's about how the media reports the stories.
otterley 5y ago
Usually, manufacture or design defects are hidden to the end customer. The car was built to spec, but the spec was wrong; or the part supplier supplied a non-obvious faulty part. It’s not like an obvious safety-related part is entirely missing. This is a very different kind of problem than leaving out a brake pad. It’d be like delivering a vehicle without a seat belt or airbag. At any rate, nobody is saying that other car manufacturers don’t screw up. They just typically screw up in non-obvious ways today instead of patently simple ones. Finally, “what about this other company/person” arguments aren’t HN-caliber. They’re not logically sound, and are best left at the door.

AnthonyMouse 5y ago

It's not that nobody writes the story, it's that nobody sees the story.

jolux 5y ago
Nah this was all over the news. I heard about it. Everyone I know heard about it, especially if they're into cars. See also Toyota's infamous sticky accelerator recall, or the Takata airbag recall. The difference is that Tesla didn't have a near-perfect history of shipping reliable vehicles for decades before screwing up like this the way Toyota did. Tesla's reputation is slowly being formed by failures such as these. I already know several people who have elected to get a Mach-E instead of a Tesla because of concerns about quality. If they don't improve they're going to be seen (rather aptly) like the Lotus of electric cars in a few years: beautiful, powerful shitboxes that nobody wants to have to rely on as a daily driver.
specto 5y ago
Who's fault is that? It's still news....
ra7 5y ago
So the car company with the most hype attracts the most attention? I don't see what the issue is.
- AnthonyMouse 5y ago
  First line of GM recall story (https://www.motortrend.com/news/whoops-2012-chevrolet-sonics-recalled-for-possible-missing-front-brake-pads-152143/ https://www.motortrend.com/news/whoops-2012-chevrolet-sonics...): > General Motors is recalling some 4300 units of its 2012 Chevrolet Sonic after finding that some of the Sonics were missing front brake pads. First line of this story: > Tesla is oftentimes accused of presenting a shiny veneer to the public and its shareholders, only to show its ugly side to employees and customers. The GM story is dry, factual. There's no indignation. It's less than a quarter of the length of the Tesla story. Nobody's going to get worked up and spread it around social media. That's not just about who the companies are, it's about how the media reports the stories.

otterley 5y ago

Usually, manufacture or design defects are hidden to the end customer. The car was built to spec, but the spec was wrong; or the part supplier supplied a non-obvious faulty part. It’s not like an obvious safety-related part is entirely missing. This is a very different kind of problem than leaving out a brake pad. It’d be like delivering a vehicle without a seat belt or airbag. At any rate, nobody is saying that other car manufacturers don’t screw up. They just typically screw up in non-obvious ways today instead of patently simple ones. Finally, “what about this other company/person” arguments aren’t HN-caliber. They’re not logically sound, and are best left at the door.