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I have an under 5 year old offspring that isn't eligible to get the shot yet. Once he gets them this year I will definitely be breathing easier.

nradov 5y ago
Fortunately the CDC data shows that the risk to young children is very low. Probably less than other common viruses like RSV. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burd... https://emergency.cdc.gov/han/2021/han00443.asp https://emergency.cdc.gov/han/2021/han00443.asp
frereubu 5y ago
If it's any consolation it's doing the rounds in my 7-year-old's class and none of them have had much worse than feeling a bit achy with a bit of a temperature. They've all had much worse from the usual bugs that do the rounds at school. Of course this is anecdata, and most people have family or friends who are vulnerable and need to be protected, but if it's just about your child then it's very unlikely to be a problem if they have no underlying conditions.
- acdha 5y ago
  Are these kids vaccinated? One of the challenges we have now is making sure to make sure to correct for that since vaccination's protection against severe outcomes has been quite durable even in the face of Omicron's improved evasion.
  - hammock 5y ago
    >vaccination's protection against severe outcomes has been quite durable even in the face of Omicron's improved evasion. Very interested if you have a source for this claim, as I have been looking for one.
    - acdha 5y ago
      The data is still incomplete since hospitalization is a lagging indicator but here's some data from the UK earlier today. See Table 2: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1046853/technical-briefing-34-14-january-2022.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/... 44% reduction after 6 months is not great but that's still significantly better than under 20% for preventing symptomatic cases which you have for a 2 dose vaccinated person facing Omicron half a year later.
      - hammock 5y ago
        Thanks. I had seen this data but forgot about it. Appreciate you finding it. Definitely nice to see some protection against severe outcomes remains even if prevention of infection isn't quite as there as we'd like. However I am not sure if we had started this pandemic with Omicron and a 44% effective vaccine, that we would have put all our eggs in one basket the way we have to date. Hindsight is 20/20, of course.
  - frereubu 5y ago
    No, none of them are vaccinated.
- hammock 5y ago
  >If it's any consolation it's doing the rounds in my 7-year-old's class and none of them have had much worse than feeling a bit achy with a bit of a temperature. They've all had much worse from the usual bugs that do the rounds at school. Of course this is anecdata You aren't crazy. Here's some actual data from the CDC: a child is at least 25 times less likely to be covid hospitalized than an adult under age 50, and 74 times less likely than an someone over age 50. Important caveat that this data is pre-omicron. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6915e3.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6915e3.htm >most people have family or friends who are vulnerable and need to be protected Couldn't agree more.

nradov 5y ago

Fortunately the CDC data shows that the risk to young children is very low. Probably less than other common viruses like RSV. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burd... https://emergency.cdc.gov/han/2021/han00443.asp https://emergency.cdc.gov/han/2021/han00443.asp

frereubu 5y ago

If it's any consolation it's doing the rounds in my 7-year-old's class and none of them have had much worse than feeling a bit achy with a bit of a temperature. They've all had much worse from the usual bugs that do the rounds at school. Of course this is anecdata, and most people have family or friends who are vulnerable and need to be protected, but if it's just about your child then it's very unlikely to be a problem if they have no underlying conditions.

acdha 5y ago
Are these kids vaccinated? One of the challenges we have now is making sure to make sure to correct for that since vaccination's protection against severe outcomes has been quite durable even in the face of Omicron's improved evasion.
- hammock 5y ago
  >vaccination's protection against severe outcomes has been quite durable even in the face of Omicron's improved evasion. Very interested if you have a source for this claim, as I have been looking for one.
  - acdha 5y ago
    The data is still incomplete since hospitalization is a lagging indicator but here's some data from the UK earlier today. See Table 2: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1046853/technical-briefing-34-14-january-2022.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/... 44% reduction after 6 months is not great but that's still significantly better than under 20% for preventing symptomatic cases which you have for a 2 dose vaccinated person facing Omicron half a year later.
    - hammock 5y ago
      Thanks. I had seen this data but forgot about it. Appreciate you finding it. Definitely nice to see some protection against severe outcomes remains even if prevention of infection isn't quite as there as we'd like. However I am not sure if we had started this pandemic with Omicron and a 44% effective vaccine, that we would have put all our eggs in one basket the way we have to date. Hindsight is 20/20, of course.
- frereubu 5y ago
  No, none of them are vaccinated.
hammock 5y ago
>If it's any consolation it's doing the rounds in my 7-year-old's class and none of them have had much worse than feeling a bit achy with a bit of a temperature. They've all had much worse from the usual bugs that do the rounds at school. Of course this is anecdata You aren't crazy. Here's some actual data from the CDC: a child is at least 25 times less likely to be covid hospitalized than an adult under age 50, and 74 times less likely than an someone over age 50. Important caveat that this data is pre-omicron. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6915e3.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6915e3.htm >most people have family or friends who are vulnerable and need to be protected Couldn't agree more.