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I don't think that's how the law works. There's a fair use exemption for using copyrighted material, however you're still not allowed to bypass DRM to get at th

I don't think that's how the law works. There's a fair use exemption for using copyrighted material, however you're still not allowed to bypass DRM to get at the data.

zozbot234 5y ago
> however you're still not allowed to bypass DRM to get at the data. I'm not sure this has ever been tested in court, though. And even the DMCA itself does provide for a rather clunky system of "exemptions" to the no-circumvention provision.
boomboomsubban 5y ago
You are, the DMCA tasked the Library of Congress with approving exceptions to the anti-circumvention provision. Here's the list of when it's acceptable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act#Anti-circumvention_exemptions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_A...
- e44858 5y ago
  Looks like ripping movies was just made legal: > The 2021 exemptions, issued in October 2021, are for:[15] > Motion pictures (including television shows and videos), as defined in 17 U.S.C. 101, where circumvention is undertaken solely in order to make use of short portions of the motion pictures for the purpose of criticism or comment, for supervised educational purposes, to accommodate for accessibility for disabled students in educational institutions, for preservation of the motion picture by a library, archive, or museum, or for research purposes at educational institutions;
  - boomboomsubban 5y ago
    No, a version of that exemption was first added in 2010. Each exemption has to be readded every new listing. And that exemption only adds cases in which stripping DRM from a DVD becomes legal. It's still generally illegal, and most people using makemkv are likely using it illegally.
pbhjpbhj 5y ago
Can anyone cite law and/or caselaw on that?
- boomboomsubban 5y ago
  They're wrong, the relevant part of the DMCA is http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap12.html#1201 http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap12.html#1201 and the most recent list of exemptions is https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2021-23311.pdf https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2021-23311.pdf
  - pbhjpbhj 5y ago
    Thanks.

I don't think that's how the law works. There's a fair use exemption for using copyrighted material, however you're still not allowed to bypass DRM to get at the data.

zozbot234 5y ago

> however you're still not allowed to bypass DRM to get at the data. I'm not sure this has ever been tested in court, though. And even the DMCA itself does provide for a rather clunky system of "exemptions" to the no-circumvention provision.

boomboomsubban 5y ago

You are, the DMCA tasked the Library of Congress with approving exceptions to the anti-circumvention provision. Here's the list of when it's acceptable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act#Anti-circumvention_exemptions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_A...

e44858 5y ago
Looks like ripping movies was just made legal: > The 2021 exemptions, issued in October 2021, are for:[15] > Motion pictures (including television shows and videos), as defined in 17 U.S.C. 101, where circumvention is undertaken solely in order to make use of short portions of the motion pictures for the purpose of criticism or comment, for supervised educational purposes, to accommodate for accessibility for disabled students in educational institutions, for preservation of the motion picture by a library, archive, or museum, or for research purposes at educational institutions;
- boomboomsubban 5y ago
  No, a version of that exemption was first added in 2010. Each exemption has to be readded every new listing. And that exemption only adds cases in which stripping DRM from a DVD becomes legal. It's still generally illegal, and most people using makemkv are likely using it illegally.

pbhjpbhj 5y ago

Can anyone cite law and/or caselaw on that?

boomboomsubban 5y ago
They're wrong, the relevant part of the DMCA is http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap12.html#1201 http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap12.html#1201 and the most recent list of exemptions is https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2021-23311.pdf https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2021-23311.pdf
- pbhjpbhj 5y ago
  Thanks.