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For a coding assistant, it has some pretty profound views on things. // q: What is the purpose of life? // a: The purpose of life is to find meaning in

For a coding assistant, it has some pretty profound views on things. // q: What is the purpose of life? // a: The purpose of life is to find meaning in death. // q: What is death? // a: Death is the act of not finding meaning in life.

Smaug123 5y ago
I mean, I'd call those deepities rather than profundities. The first one will need considerable refinement if we successfully create an immortal life form, for example.
- jack_pp 5y ago
  You may enjoy thiss conversation from HPMOR (http://www.hpmor.com/chapter/39 http://www.hpmor.com/chapter/39): Well, sounding wise wasn't difficult. It was a lot easier than being intelligent, actually, since you didn't have to say anything surprising or come up with any new insights. You just let your brain's pattern-matching software complete the cliche, using whatever Deep Wisdom you'd stored previously. "Headmaster," Harry said solemnly, "I would rather not define myself by my enemies." Somehow, even in the midst of all the whirring and ticking, there was a kind of silence. That had come out a bit more Deeply Wise than Harry had intended. . . . Now, how to phrase the rejoinder in such fashion that it also sounded incredibly wise... "You are not Ravenclaw," Harry said with calm dignity, "and so it might not have occurred to you that to respect the truth, and seek it all the days of your life, could also be an act of grace." The Headmaster's eyebrows rose up. And then he sighed. "How did you become so wise, so young...?" The old wizard sounded sad, as he said it. "Perhaps it will prove valuable to you." Only for impressing ancient wizards who are overly impressed with themselves, thought Harry. He was actually a bit disappointed by Dumbledore's credulity; it wasn't that Harry had lied, but Dumbledore seemed far too impressed with Harry's ability to phrase things so that they sounded profound, instead of putting them into plain English like Richard Feynman had done with his wisdom...
  - _dain_ 5y ago
    hpmor is itself a million words of fake profundities for nerds
    - jack_pp 5y ago
      it is the wisest work of fiction I have ever read, if you think you found a better one please share it
      - _dain_ 5y ago
        if it's honestly the "wisest work of fiction" you've ever read, you're ngmi. it isn't a well-written or well-constructed work, the ideas it presents don't stand up to scrutiny. https://danluu.com/su3su2u1/hpmor/ https://danluu.com/su3su2u1/hpmor/ it sounds like you have an impoverished information diet. you need to read more. just anything, I don't have any specific recommendations. if you like "rationalist fiction", read worm maybe? it'll scratch the same itch without having an insufferable ubermensch author insert protagonist.
        jack_pp 5y ago
        I did read worm, didn't even come close. If you think HPMOR satiates as you say "an impoverished information diet" then it is by your own definition, very good because it must have a lot of useful information right? I've been exposed to nearly everything it tried to teach before I read it so I don't think I learned all that much from it but his writing style is unparalleled imo. It weaves humor, drama, references to stuff I love in a way nothing else has come close since. There's a reason every popular TV show and movie has references to stuff, because people love it. What is curious to me is the hate, you could simply say you didn't enjoy it but you are attacking random people on the internet, implying they're dumb because something wasn't to your taste..?
        _dain_ 5y ago
        >If you think HPMOR satiates as you say "an impoverished information diet" then it is by your own definition, very good because it must have a lot of useful information right? ... no, I meant that you can't possibly have read much actual quality literature if hpmor is the best you've read. it's like a kid saying chicken tendies are the best food ever. that exchange you posted is just cringeworthy. dumbledore is lazily written as a complete fool in every scene just so that the self-insert protagonist can easily trounce him (and sometimes with flawed logic, which he is never called out on). this happens with every opponent, aside from quirrel, who is also a creepy weird author self-insert. and then it mangles a lot of the actual science it purports to teach.
- tw04 5y ago
  I'd imagine any truly immortal lifeform would eventually go insane unless it almost completely lacks intelligence. At which point, why bother? Unless we're talking about a machine and not a lifeform?
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Smaug123 5y ago

I mean, I'd call those deepities rather than profundities. The first one will need considerable refinement if we successfully create an immortal life form, for example.

jack_pp 5y ago
You may enjoy thiss conversation from HPMOR (http://www.hpmor.com/chapter/39 http://www.hpmor.com/chapter/39): Well, sounding wise wasn't difficult. It was a lot easier than being intelligent, actually, since you didn't have to say anything surprising or come up with any new insights. You just let your brain's pattern-matching software complete the cliche, using whatever Deep Wisdom you'd stored previously. "Headmaster," Harry said solemnly, "I would rather not define myself by my enemies." Somehow, even in the midst of all the whirring and ticking, there was a kind of silence. That had come out a bit more Deeply Wise than Harry had intended. . . . Now, how to phrase the rejoinder in such fashion that it also sounded incredibly wise... "You are not Ravenclaw," Harry said with calm dignity, "and so it might not have occurred to you that to respect the truth, and seek it all the days of your life, could also be an act of grace." The Headmaster's eyebrows rose up. And then he sighed. "How did you become so wise, so young...?" The old wizard sounded sad, as he said it. "Perhaps it will prove valuable to you." Only for impressing ancient wizards who are overly impressed with themselves, thought Harry. He was actually a bit disappointed by Dumbledore's credulity; it wasn't that Harry had lied, but Dumbledore seemed far too impressed with Harry's ability to phrase things so that they sounded profound, instead of putting them into plain English like Richard Feynman had done with his wisdom...
- _dain_ 5y ago
  hpmor is itself a million words of fake profundities for nerds
  - jack_pp 5y ago
    it is the wisest work of fiction I have ever read, if you think you found a better one please share it
    - _dain_ 5y ago
      if it's honestly the "wisest work of fiction" you've ever read, you're ngmi. it isn't a well-written or well-constructed work, the ideas it presents don't stand up to scrutiny. https://danluu.com/su3su2u1/hpmor/ https://danluu.com/su3su2u1/hpmor/ it sounds like you have an impoverished information diet. you need to read more. just anything, I don't have any specific recommendations. if you like "rationalist fiction", read worm maybe? it'll scratch the same itch without having an insufferable ubermensch author insert protagonist.
      - jack_pp 5y ago
        I did read worm, didn't even come close. If you think HPMOR satiates as you say "an impoverished information diet" then it is by your own definition, very good because it must have a lot of useful information right? I've been exposed to nearly everything it tried to teach before I read it so I don't think I learned all that much from it but his writing style is unparalleled imo. It weaves humor, drama, references to stuff I love in a way nothing else has come close since. There's a reason every popular TV show and movie has references to stuff, because people love it. What is curious to me is the hate, you could simply say you didn't enjoy it but you are attacking random people on the internet, implying they're dumb because something wasn't to your taste..?
        _dain_ 5y ago
        >If you think HPMOR satiates as you say "an impoverished information diet" then it is by your own definition, very good because it must have a lot of useful information right? ... no, I meant that you can't possibly have read much actual quality literature if hpmor is the best you've read. it's like a kid saying chicken tendies are the best food ever. that exchange you posted is just cringeworthy. dumbledore is lazily written as a complete fool in every scene just so that the self-insert protagonist can easily trounce him (and sometimes with flawed logic, which he is never called out on). this happens with every opponent, aside from quirrel, who is also a creepy weird author self-insert. and then it mangles a lot of the actual science it purports to teach.
tw04 5y ago
I'd imagine any truly immortal lifeform would eventually go insane unless it almost completely lacks intelligence. At which point, why bother? Unless we're talking about a machine and not a lifeform?

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