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"Absolutely wrong. Timestamp is the time of pdf download. Everytime you repeat the process timestamp will change. Difference in confirmation code is because he

"Absolutely wrong. Timestamp is the time of pdf download. Everytime you repeat the process timestamp will change. Difference in confirmation code is because he used 2 different state labs on 16th and 22nd. Very poor analysis, I have to conclude."[1] "You need to understand that these papers are not fakes. Both tests, database records as well as pdf certificates are 100% legit. He and his family have enough influence in state institutions to organize 100% original PCR certificate but with false positive result."[2] "I have now checked your theory with my PCR test from October 1st. I have downloaded it now from http://e-zdravlje.gov.rs http://e-zdravlje.gov.rs, scan QR code and timestamp from URL is 1641917096 (Tue Jan 11 2022 16:04:56 GMT). So timestamp in URL is not when test is done, but when test is downloaded"[3] [1]https://twitter.com/CharlieWafflees/status/1480956879324995597 https://twitter.com/CharlieWafflees/status/14809568793249955... [2]https://twitter.com/CharlieWafflees/status/1480958864761700364 https://twitter.com/CharlieWafflees/status/14809588647617003... [3]https://twitter.com/blokovi/status/1480938239515148297 https://twitter.com/blokovi/status/1480938239515148297

samwillis 5y ago
I believe the “confirmation code” that’s higher for 16th than the 22nd test is still suspicious though. 16th: 7371999-259039 22nd: 7320919-259039 Does anyone have an explanation of how that code works. Could it have been related to a manufacturing batch of tests that’s been used out of order? Those of you here with test results how does that code relate to your testing date?
- nikcub 5y ago
  I wouldn't have bet a public accusation of this magnitude on those auto-incrementing ID's. There's a possibility the earlier positive test was conducted privately and was only registered with the government at a later date when he knew it would be required for visa purposes.
  - saberdancer 5y ago
    The name of the institution that conducted the test is on the test result. It's a different one but I don't know if they would constitute private or public and how it works in Serbia.
  - dragandj 5y ago
    In Serbia, only the state system is licensed to perform officially recognized PCR tests.
- zo1 5y ago
  It could very well be a unique ID not for the test but for the generated pdf document. 100% have done a system like this and we put the ID of the "doc" rather than the internal entity. This is also not a smoking gun in my opinion.
  - aix1 5y ago
    That theory should be easy for someone from Serbia to check, by re-downloading their test results and seeing whether the ID changes.
weinzierl 5y ago
The Spiegel article [1] additionally claims (and supports with screenshots) that the 7371999-259039 certificate reported a negative result at a previous point in time. Unfortunately there is no way to verify that, but still: Any ideas how it could be explained? [1] https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/novak-djokovic-were-the-results-of-his-positive-pcr-test-manipulated-a-cf3e7344-e98f-4fc3-8bb3-7727d4795e97 https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/novak-djokovic-we...
- SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
  They claim that they got both negative and positive results yesterday, which almost has to be user error or a software bug. Even if someone at the Serbian health agency had write access and were dedicated to helping Djokovic, why would they want to change the results a week after he landed in Australia? (A bad table join could easily cause this, although I'm not sure why that wouldn't have caused larger issues in Serbian test tracking.)
  - ls15 5y ago
    I received seven digital covid-related certificates in two countries so far. 5/7 had blatant errors in them. Wrong vaccine, wrong place, wrong birth date, typos in name, completely empty, typos in the template. I was able to get them retroactively corrected where needed (3/7) and in two cases, the errors corrected themselves. Nobody ever looks at these things.
  - grujicd 5y ago
    Even I made a mistake here in this thread and pasted Novak's url instead of mine. It's very easy to make user error when copying long urls with numbers in them. Especially when you want to check and recheck two QR codes.
jeffrallen 5y ago
Regarding (2): in French we call those "faux vrai papiers", fake real papers. They are records that are issued via the legitimate system, but fraudulently. There is an epidemic of fake Covid vaccination records coming from France of this type, and being bought at least in Switzerland, and probably all over Europe
sasajovanovic 5y ago
Negative. Timestamp in QR code is independent of the time of reading QR code.

samwillis 5y ago

I believe the “confirmation code” that’s higher for 16th than the 22nd test is still suspicious though. 16th: 7371999-259039 22nd: 7320919-259039 Does anyone have an explanation of how that code works. Could it have been related to a manufacturing batch of tests that’s been used out of order? Those of you here with test results how does that code relate to your testing date?

nikcub 5y ago
I wouldn't have bet a public accusation of this magnitude on those auto-incrementing ID's. There's a possibility the earlier positive test was conducted privately and was only registered with the government at a later date when he knew it would be required for visa purposes.
- saberdancer 5y ago
  The name of the institution that conducted the test is on the test result. It's a different one but I don't know if they would constitute private or public and how it works in Serbia.
- dragandj 5y ago
  In Serbia, only the state system is licensed to perform officially recognized PCR tests.
zo1 5y ago
It could very well be a unique ID not for the test but for the generated pdf document. 100% have done a system like this and we put the ID of the "doc" rather than the internal entity. This is also not a smoking gun in my opinion.
- aix1 5y ago
  That theory should be easy for someone from Serbia to check, by re-downloading their test results and seeing whether the ID changes.

weinzierl 5y ago

The Spiegel article [1] additionally claims (and supports with screenshots) that the 7371999-259039 certificate reported a negative result at a previous point in time. Unfortunately there is no way to verify that, but still: Any ideas how it could be explained? [1] https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/novak-djokovic-were-the-results-of-his-positive-pcr-test-manipulated-a-cf3e7344-e98f-4fc3-8bb3-7727d4795e97 https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/novak-djokovic-we...

SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
They claim that they got both negative and positive results yesterday, which almost has to be user error or a software bug. Even if someone at the Serbian health agency had write access and were dedicated to helping Djokovic, why would they want to change the results a week after he landed in Australia? (A bad table join could easily cause this, although I'm not sure why that wouldn't have caused larger issues in Serbian test tracking.)
- ls15 5y ago
  I received seven digital covid-related certificates in two countries so far. 5/7 had blatant errors in them. Wrong vaccine, wrong place, wrong birth date, typos in name, completely empty, typos in the template. I was able to get them retroactively corrected where needed (3/7) and in two cases, the errors corrected themselves. Nobody ever looks at these things.
- grujicd 5y ago
  Even I made a mistake here in this thread and pasted Novak's url instead of mine. It's very easy to make user error when copying long urls with numbers in them. Especially when you want to check and recheck two QR codes.

jeffrallen 5y ago

Regarding (2): in French we call those "faux vrai papiers", fake real papers. They are records that are issued via the legitimate system, but fraudulently. There is an epidemic of fake Covid vaccination records coming from France of this type, and being bought at least in Switzerland, and probably all over Europe

sasajovanovic 5y ago

Negative. Timestamp in QR code is independent of the time of reading QR code.