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Another example amongst many: Musk is really 'edgy' on Twitter. He won't say shit about china though. He has a car plant there.

jimbob45 5y ago
That's fine but China's ultimately shooting themselves in the foot. "If they're not talking about you to your face, they're talking twice as much behind your back". No one is vacationing to China, no one is immigrating to China, no one willingly invests in China when alternatives are present. They're only going to prosper until they can no longer bully the world around economically and then they'll be post-Soviet Russia 2.0.
- AlwaysRock 5y ago
  No one is vacationing to China? Some Americans who might have picked China in the past are no longer vacationing to China. Massive amounts of people of Chinese descent still vacation to China. The difference between them and Soviet Russia is people. There are a billion and a half Chinese people. There was less than 300 million people in Soviet Russia. You don't need tourism or immigration when you have a billion+ people with now a healthy middle class.
  - revnode 5y ago
    > There are a billion and a half Chinese people. How long is that going to last? Populations fluctuate. They shot themselves in the foot with their one-child policy. India is also quite populous, but doesn't seem to exert the same kind of influence.
    - AlwaysRock 5y ago
      Indias middle class makes up a much smaller percent of their population when compared to China. They will likely have similar influence if they continue to expand their middle class, as China spent the last 20 years doing.
- Steltek 5y ago
  This sounds like how people talked about Trump in 2016: assuming that everyone else can see what you see while ignoring the animosity the US earned by throwing its weight around. Some countries, maybe with less societal concern for individual rights, might see it as beneficial to their bargaining position to have a little competition in the superpower space.
- deltaonefour 5y ago
  You'd be missing out if you don't. China is huge and it is far more than the injustices the media always likes to portray it as. Yeah I'm mostly on the side of the media but you have to consider that China is a complex country that exploded and grew into the technological super power it is today at a speed and rate no other civilization has achieved in the history of human kind.
nonethewiser 5y ago
I think this is the best example. It's an extremely loud silence. Clearly no coincidence.

jimbob45 5y ago

That's fine but China's ultimately shooting themselves in the foot. "If they're not talking about you to your face, they're talking twice as much behind your back". No one is vacationing to China, no one is immigrating to China, no one willingly invests in China when alternatives are present. They're only going to prosper until they can no longer bully the world around economically and then they'll be post-Soviet Russia 2.0.

AlwaysRock 5y ago
No one is vacationing to China? Some Americans who might have picked China in the past are no longer vacationing to China. Massive amounts of people of Chinese descent still vacation to China. The difference between them and Soviet Russia is people. There are a billion and a half Chinese people. There was less than 300 million people in Soviet Russia. You don't need tourism or immigration when you have a billion+ people with now a healthy middle class.
- revnode 5y ago
  > There are a billion and a half Chinese people. How long is that going to last? Populations fluctuate. They shot themselves in the foot with their one-child policy. India is also quite populous, but doesn't seem to exert the same kind of influence.
  - AlwaysRock 5y ago
    Indias middle class makes up a much smaller percent of their population when compared to China. They will likely have similar influence if they continue to expand their middle class, as China spent the last 20 years doing.
Steltek 5y ago
This sounds like how people talked about Trump in 2016: assuming that everyone else can see what you see while ignoring the animosity the US earned by throwing its weight around. Some countries, maybe with less societal concern for individual rights, might see it as beneficial to their bargaining position to have a little competition in the superpower space.
deltaonefour 5y ago
You'd be missing out if you don't. China is huge and it is far more than the injustices the media always likes to portray it as. Yeah I'm mostly on the side of the media but you have to consider that China is a complex country that exploded and grew into the technological super power it is today at a speed and rate no other civilization has achieved in the history of human kind.

nonethewiser 5y ago

I think this is the best example. It's an extremely loud silence. Clearly no coincidence.